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| Quote: puroresu_boy "30k for a Saturday seemed low too me. Anfield is closer for the m62 'heartlands' clubs yet the crowd hasn't gone up.
I think the real question should be has magic weekend had its time now? Maybe the fans are now just tired of it and after so many just aren't interested in this concept anymore. Personally I think we need change. I would keep the weekend but go with a 9's tournament. Try something different and new as the current format has become tired and old.'"
I think they need to advertise what is available to do other than the games. There aren’t that many people who want to sit through 3 games back to back. There needs to be stuff around the ground to keep people there. The clubs need to be brought into it more. The 6 clubs that aren’t playing that day should make players available for various fan zone activities. There should be club merchandise available etc. Ticketing for other RL events and England games. Sign people up for Our League (which desperately needs refreshing).
Have a competition whereby you select a Magic Weekend fantasy team, the top 5 teams win some prizes etc.
Stuff to fill some time in for people and keep them interested.
I was somewhat reluctantly persuaded to go to the F1 last year and was amazed at the amount of stuff around the track to go and see. Watching the race was only a part of the whole experience, we need to do the same with Magic Weekend.
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| 30000 does not seem to out of step.
Alot will depend on the attendance tomorrow. Recently Saturday has been the bigger day, but if that trend is changed then this weekend will be equivalent to any other magic weekend.
The first Newcastle event holds the record so far I believe.
Aggregate attendance 67,788,
single-day crowd of 40,871
So a big Sunday crowd would push that number.
The difference between Liverpool and Newcastle maybe that because it is close why would fans buy a weekend ticket. Wigan and Warrington fans would be home earlier than if they had played a home game due to the earlier kick off.
So it may lose the fans who may have made a weekend of it.
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| I thought that the idea of magic was to promote rugby league in new areas hence Cardiff Edinburgh and Newcastle. If that is the idea the size of the crowd although important is not the be all and end all it is the new fans who are converted that counts. Taking it to Liverpool and Manchester is absolutely pointless as only die hard fans attend. But maybe the current SL management are only interested in the money they get from the host city
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| Quote: ball-in-hand "I thought that the idea of magic was to promote rugby league in new areas hence Cardiff Edinburgh and Newcastle. If that is the idea the size of the crowd although important is not the be all and end all it is the new fans who are converted that counts. Taking it to Liverpool and Manchester is absolutely pointless as only die hard fans attend. But maybe the current SL management are only interested in the money they get from the host city'"
I think that is accurate.
A reasonable number of fans just prevents it being an embarrassment.
The lack of a strategy is just scary.
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| Quote: Mash Butty "https
I have just read the article I found it very positive and a heap of good news for once, The game really should make more of this guy & his media presence. Thanks for the link.
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| Im not sure the idea of Magic should be to promote it to new fans. If I was being introduced to a new sport I wouldn't want to sit through 6 games back to back all weekend.
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| What kind of engage are the players having with the local community in the week before magic weekend? I read the NRL had players engaging with 10k kids in Queensland via schools and workshops prior to the weekend in Australia.
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| thought it was poor outside the ground with no fan zone this time
inside anfield i thought the seats were awful, hardly any leg room!
but a good win for the giants so i enjoyed the day
crowd was no where near as bad as some would have you believe before the event had even started
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| Depending on where it is held it should showcase the local team or be based an strategy to win new fans. The same 12 teams every season tells you nothing.
As a minimum the Local team should play a game. Such as Thunder at Newcastle.
Or have a women’s game or an under 16s game to showcase kids playing
I would like 6 teams piked for each day and then a draw to see who they play. Even something like a mini fans it’s a knockout to determine the games on the day. So teams have no idea who or when they will be playing on a particular day. Means if you want to watch you have to turn up for the day
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| Quote: puroresu_boy "30k for a Saturday seemed low too me. Anfield is closer for the m62 'heartlands' clubs yet the crowd hasn't gone up.
I think the real question should be has magic weekend had its time now? Maybe the fans are now just tired of it and after so many just aren't interested in this concept anymore. Personally I think we need change. I would keep the weekend but go with a 9's tournament. Try something different and new as the current format has become tired and old.'"
Unlike the Millenium, the Etihad and St James’; Anfield has got absolutely nothing going on around the ground or isn’t near/in the centre of its city.
It’s also still got a lot of restricted views even with the new stand (which took out many restricted views). The Anfield Road end (where Wire were last night) is where there are numerous white poles hold up the tier above, if you’re behind any of them you can see nothing of any game. Also at the back of that first tier in the Anfield Road end you can’t see the other end of the stadium and can see a letterbox view of the bit of the pitch you can see. Over in the Kop, if you’re at the back (where the Wigan fans were singing last night) you can’t see the sides of the pitch.
It’s a poor choice of venue for Magic.
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| Quote: bewareshadows "30000 does not seem to out of step.
Alot will depend on the attendance tomorrow. Recently Saturday has been the bigger day, but if that trend is changed then this weekend will be equivalent to any other magic weekend.
The first Newcastle event holds the record so far I believe.
Aggregate attendance 67,788,
single-day crowd of 40,871
So a big Sunday crowd would push that number.
The difference between Liverpool and Newcastle maybe that because it is close why would fans buy a weekend ticket. Wigan and Warrington fans would be home earlier than if they had played a home game due to the earlier kick off.
So it may lose the fans who may have made a weekend of it.'"
Being a bank holiday weekend should help keep the crowd in til the end, other years the ground has emptied early on the Sunday.
Still cant beleive they missed an easy trick to get the crowd up by letting Widnes play there as a warmup, would have added at least 3k on. Real issue is however not attracting any Scousers in.
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| Quote: Psychedelic Casual "Unlike the Millenium, the Etihad and St James’; Anfield has got absolutely nothing going on around the ground or isn’t near/in the centre of its city.
It’s also still got a lot of restricted views even with the new stand (which took out many restricted views). The Anfield Road end (where Wire were last night) is where there are numerous white poles hold up the tier above, if you’re behind any of them you can see nothing of any game. Also at the back of that first tier in the Anfield Road end you can’t see the other end of the stadium and can see a letterbox view of the bit of the pitch you can see. Over in the Kop, if you’re at the back (where the Wigan fans were singing last night) you can’t see the sides of the pitch.
It’s a poor choice of venue for Magic.'"
Yeah but Elstone pocketed an extra few quid from going to Anfield. Biggest problem is clubs don’t raise to the occasion like you’d hope for an event fixture (and never really have). Only Hudds have upped their game this weekend and even that was helped by Hull being utterly dreadful.
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| Anfield was a poor choice from day one . For one it is far away from the City Centre , and the lack of public houses & eateries around Anfield didnt help .
It wasnt even promoted around Liverpool City Centre . Cardiff is first choice for me followed by Newcastle .
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| 30,057 came through the turnstiles to watch day one at Anfield, 26,812 were in attendance today for an overall total of 56,869.
The crowd at Anfield this weekend is still significantly down on the 64,319 who attended St James’ Park last year.
The crowd is the lowest since the 2010 event in Edinburgh
2007 in Cardiff.
Day one: 32,384
Day two: 26,447
Total: 58,831
2008 in Cardiff.
Day one: 30,628
Day two: 32,516
Total: 63,144
2009 in Edinburgh.
Day one: 29,627
Day two: 30,122
Total: 59,749
2010 in Edinburgh.
Day one: 26,642
Day two: 25,401
Total: 52, 043 (lowest crowd)
2011 in Cardiff.
Day one: 30,891
Day two: 29,323
Total: 60,214
2012 in Manchester
Day one: 30,763
Day two: 32, 953
Total: 63,716
2013 in Manchester.
Day one: 30,793
Day two: 31,249
Total: 62,042
2014 in Manchester.
Day one: 36,339
Day two: 28,213
Total: 64,552
2015 in Newcastle.
Day one: 40,871
Day two: 26,970
Total: 67,841
2016 in Newcastle.
Day one: 39,331
Day two: 28,945
Total: 68,276 (highest crowd)
2017 in Newcastle.
Day one: 35,361
Day two: 30,046
Total: 65,407
2018 in Newcastle.
Day one: 38,881
Day two: 25,438
Total: 64,319
2019 in Liverpool
Day one: 30,057
Day two: 26,812
Total: 56,869
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