To be fair, he isn't the one who decides which matches he is in charge of.

Can someone please give Widnes the 2 points, so we can all get a rest from the bitching and whining of their fans?

Are we not allowed right of reply?



I was under the impression that if one of your fans was willing to keep the conversation going then we would be able to offer the counter view or does that run out if we don't respond within a 2 hour deadline?

I'm glad I started on page 3. If the bitching & whining on the previous 2 pages is even too much for a Wakey fan it must be insufferable.

Just listened to Carney who said he just watched the whole match and as he points out even leaving aside whether Miller was taken out , the players who chased and Marsh were in front of the kicker anyway. Go watch it and look where they are when the kick goes up, well in front.

The fact it's on Sky might be because you're Coach made such a big song and dance about the whole things, thus making it newsworthy

As for the referee was responsible for you losing the game, get a grip.

It's blatantly clear to me why the try was disallowed....can you not see it? Houston interfered with Miller when challenging for the ball....Cobb was in an excellent position to see it....Houston may have had his eye on the ball but at the same time had his left, leading knee 'too high' and in the chest/rib area of Miller and his following right knee clearly strikes Miller on the backside....Now correct me if I'm wrong but on any blade of grass, or any inch on any playing field, if you jump into an opposition player and your knee hits them a) in the chest/rib area....and/or....b) on the backside....I'm pretty sure that's a penalty....or is that allowed now?....I'd love to know why you think it ok to jump into a player with your knees...

Well in front? Really.. Cahill, Leuluai and O'Carroll are all behind the kicker. The one camera angle available on the night (it wasn't a sky game so only the club cameras are present) doesn't show Houston or Marsh in shot when the kick is put up so I'm amazed that Carney who only has access to this one camera angle is so certain? Or could he be doing what he's normally doing and that's a really bad Adrian Durham impression.
Also... Cobb doesn't signal for offside.. he signals for impeding in the air. So even Cobb wasn't aware of the offside?

Ha ha ha ha ha... ace!! Sorry mate. I thought we were having a laugh. Awkward.
I'm sorry mate but there is nothing in that video or the screenshot showing the contact to suggest that Houston has interfered deliberately with Miller. If anything there is a fairly decent argument that Miller is interfering with Houston as he seems to have his arms around him but Miller simply didn't challenge well enough for the ball.
I'm helpfully willing to take any number of screenshots this weekend to show attackers challenging for the ball with their knees tucked up. If contact of the knee against the opposition led to a penalty then there wouldn't be very many tries resulting from kicks at all. Unless we want to instruct them to start jumping like beanpoles. That's one way to go I suppose.

I will check back on Monday on this thread to see all your screenshots of players with their knee over 5ft high in the air challenging for a ball then...