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Quote: SmokeyTA "hence it being described as possibly unenforceable.

A companies pay structure is in no way comparable to the Salary Cap. There are many clear and obvious differences. Not least that a third party does not punish a company for breaking its pay structure.'"

A parent company could punish its subsidiary. As could a company punish a department within that company if it broke pay structures.

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//www.pngnrlbid.com [quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35] [quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]:



Quote: Him "A parent company could punish its subsidiary. As could a company punish a department within that company if it broke pay structures.'"

A company isn't a third party to its constituent parts.

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[b:3w2ur1db]Superleague Titles[/b:3w2ur1db] Warrington Wolfs - 0 Wakefield Trinity - 0 Leigh Centurions - 0 [quote="Budgiezilla":3w2ur1db]Surely it can only be a player from Catalans. Probably the best RL side I have ever witnessed in this season's comp.[/quote:3w2ur1db]:



If the cap is against the Law, as smokey claims, how come no one has faced criminal charges yet? In any sport?

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//www.pngnrlbid.com [quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35] [quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]:



Quote: Lebron James "If the cap is against the Law, as smokey claims, how come no one has faced criminal charges yet? In any sport?

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because it wouldnt be a criminal case.

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The question of legality of salary caps is a complex one, the central issues are very well defined, as are the applicable legal principles. If it ever was challenged in court, the result is no foregone conclusion.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "The question of legality of salary caps is a complex one, the central issues are very well defined, as are the applicable legal principles. If it ever was challenged in court, the result is no foregone conclusion.'"


The RFU after their recently salary cap investigations, swept several apparent breaches, ruining into millions, under the carpet. The general consensus seemed to be, that they took legal advice and where advised that a case against a wealthy team willing to fight it would be very long & expensive with only a 50\50 chance of winning. They decided not to try.

I am sure the exact details etc are not the same, but it does highlight the problems.

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Quote: Kiyan "The RFU after their recently salary cap investigations, swept several apparent breaches, ruining into millions, under the carpet. The general consensus seemed to be, that they took legal advice and where advised that a case against a wealthy team willing to fight it would be very long & expensive with only a 50\50 chance of winning. They decided not to try.

I am sure the exact details etc are not the same, but it does highlight the problems.'"

Yep. Though of course that was potentially against several clubs who'd breached the cap. If there's only 1 then the governing body may be willing to take that case on.

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//www.pngnrlbid.com [quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35] [quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]:



I've said before the bigger question regarding the SC would be less it's legality and more how much time and money the RFL is prepared to spend defending it when fundamentally it doesn't actually affect the RFL as an organisation.

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3 points according to Marwan Koucash - For speeding lol

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Three points. Open season lads, get those players paid elsewhere off your books and only face a miniscule penalty.

If you're going to have a salary cap at all, at least bother enforcing breaches of it properly.

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think he is joking Andy

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And the 'Jumping The Gun' prize goes to Andy Gilder eusa_clap.gif

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It won't be announced today will it? I thought today was to hear evidence and then they go away and make a decision.

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6 points and 5k fine. Got off lightly imo

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Skysports.com wrote: 'There was still time for Murrell to knock over a drop-goal into the sea of delirious red and white behind the posts. The Black and Whites were already heading disconsolately home'.:



6?!! I'm sure the good Doc will think twice about getting his sums wrong next time...yeah right! The breaches might've been from 14' and 15' but to then announce the signing of a top winger on the same day? Big two fingers up at the RFL

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