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Quote: Big Jim Slade "And here you are once again blindly bleating on about the collective RL shoulder based chip whilst singularly failing to acknowledge that decades of institutional media and cultural bias in favour of RU have helped to create this situation. It's all well and good saying that RL doesn't deserve more coverage, but how about the fact that RU is worthy of significantly less than it gets. Game for game at domestic level roughly the same number of people care about both sports, but the coverage is hugely disproportionate in favour of the establishment game. You don't think that carries any significance?

You accuse others of being blinkered yet take no account of decades of RL being treated like a second class citizen, outlawed in the armed forces, ignored by the mainstream press regardless of popularity. A level playing field doesn't just happen after that sort of mistreatment, it requires decades of work. It's all well and good chastising the RL board, but the RFU and the establishment have, as a provable matter of fact, held RL back right around the world for a very long time, and to ignore that makes you look like an idiot.'"


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Quote: Big Jim Slade "And here you are once again blindly bleating on about the collective RL shoulder based chip whilst singularly failing to acknowledge that decades of institutional media and cultural bias in favour of RU have helped to create this situation. It's all well and good saying that RL doesn't deserve more coverage, but how about the fact that RU is worthy of significantly less than it gets. Game for game at domestic level roughly the same number of people care about both sports, but the coverage is hugely disproportionate in favour of the establishment game. You don't think that carries any significance?

You accuse others of being blinkered yet take no account of decades of RL being treated like a second class citizen, outlawed in the armed forces, ignored by the mainstream press regardless of popularity. A level playing field doesn't just happen after that sort of mistreatment, it requires decades of work. It's all well and good chastising the RL board, but the RFU and the establishment have, as a provable matter of fact, held RL back right around the world for a very long time, and to ignore that makes you look like an idiot.'"


Yet another recycled untruth, club RL does get the same coverage and press as club RU. Have you not been listening to BBC radio 5Live? (The same BBC that is part of the Establishment and ignores RL) I notice you didn't mention International RU and RL, I wonder why? You think that RU and RL should be considered as equals but they're not due to the international game and its wider geographical reach. Do you think RU and soccer should have the same coverage? Only an 'idiot' would think so, so only an 'idiot' would think RU and RL should have the same coverage. Outlawed from the armed forces? yeah, cos that's what stopped RL from global domination and would have made all the difference icon_lol.gif

I'd rather be a humble idiot than the self-pitying, bleating type that blames all my own failings and shortcomings on someone else.

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Quote: Big Jim Slade "And here you are once again blindly bleating on about the collective RL shoulder based chip whilst singularly failing to acknowledge that decades of institutional media and cultural bias in favour of RU have helped to create this situation. It's all well and good saying that RL doesn't deserve more coverage, but how about the fact that RU is worthy of significantly less than it gets. Game for game at domestic level roughly the same number of people care about both sports, but the coverage is hugely disproportionate in favour of the establishment game. You don't think that carries any significance?

You accuse others of being blinkered yet take no account of decades of RL being treated like a second class citizen, outlawed in the armed forces, ignored by the mainstream press regardless of popularity. A level playing field doesn't just happen after that sort of mistreatment, it requires decades of work. It's all well and good chastising the RL board, but the RFU and the establishment have, as a provable matter of fact, held RL back right around the world for a very long time, and to ignore that makes you look like an idiot.'"

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The old Rugby Union restrictions aimed directly at RL have gone, by and large. But now RL falls into the trap set by the establishment. That of anything outside what the establishment deems to be "right" is either ignored or actively fought against with every weapon of the state, both public and private, that they can bring to bear.
Be it in politics, media, education, whatever. Hence the vitriol and lies directed at Jeremy Corbyn. Or the proliferation of public schoolboys in high positions. Or the criminalisation of as much of the working class as possible. Or, as an example of the vastly unequal system, the fact that London gets 24 times higher transport spending than the rest of the country.

I also guess it's just co-incidence that England Union are playing in the World Cup in the same city and on the exact same day, just 2 hours apart from the SL Grand Final.

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Quote: galliant "Yet another recycled untruth, club RL does get the same coverage and press as club RU. Have you not been listening to BBC radio 5Live? (The same BBC that is part of the Establishment and ignores RL) I notice you didn't mention International RU and RL, I wonder why? You think that RU and RL should be considered as equals but they're not due to the international game and its wider geographical reach. Do you think RU and soccer should have the same coverage? Only an 'idiot' would think so, so only an 'idiot' would think RU and RL should have the same coverage. Outlawed from the armed forces? yeah, cos that's what stopped RL from global domination and would have made all the difference
And thick as two short planks, ignorance is no excuse

What a fool!

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Quote: The Avenger "And thick as two short planks, ignorance is no excuse

What a fool!'"

Clearly he doesn't understand British history, the history of RL or the history of sport and how/why British sport grew across the world.

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[b:3w2ur1db]Superleague Titles[/b:3w2ur1db] Warrington Wolfs - 0 Wakefield Trinity - 0 Leigh Centurions - 0 [quote="Budgiezilla":3w2ur1db]Surely it can only be a player from Catalans. Probably the best RL side I have ever witnessed in this season's comp.[/quote:3w2ur1db]:



I really can't believe that people think that rugby and the bbc are out to undermine and destroy rugby league. The bbc by having the rights (which they don't have to have) and broadcAsting to tens of millions of potential viewers is not the mark of a corporation trying to destroy a game. If they wanted to they would just relinquish the rights and give them to channel 5 or something. No wonder RL in this country is a laughing stock when 99% of the fans are paranoid idiots

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On the subject of Union keeping League down. If one of my staff decided to 'go it alone" and I felt that he/she might nick some of my clients or other staff, I'd crush their business without a moments hesitation.
Rugby League broke away from Union and as such, Union would have seen the new governing body as direct competition......and in every competition there are winners and losers.
Whining about losing makes us look like small minded fools with chips on our shoulders.


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Union trying to put League down in the past is fine. The state backing Union up isn't.

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Quote: Him "Union trying to put League down in the past is fine. The state backing Union up isn't.'"


If I need a favour from someone in my attempts to crush my ex-employee's new business that threatens my own, I would probably start with old school mates. It's just unfortunate for League that the Union lot went to school with the people in power and as I say, its a competition and we were never gong to win, especially with the odds stacked against us.

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Quote: The Changing Man "If I need a favour from someone in my attempts to crush my ex-employee's new business that threatens my own, I would probably start with old school mates. It's just unfortunate for League that the Union lot went to school with the people in power and as I say, its a competition and we were never gong to win, especially with the odds stacked against us.'"


As for Public Schools..... I was taking to my boss recently, thoroughly decent chap who went to Malvern... I was stunned to learn that they did sports every afternoon, let me repeat, EVERY afternoon. So, all they know is Union.

My feeling is that it's deliberate from the point of view of the RFU. But they just use, as is stated, people who know no better, the people who will be running the media.

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Quote: moto748 "www.newstatesman.com/politics/sport/2015/08/120-years-and-rugby-league-still-patronised-parochial'"


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Does nt tell us anything we don't already know, but always worth repeating to a wider audience.

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So after pages of 'all the media is against RL' someone posts a link to a pro-RL article in the media? icon_lol.gif

Another recycled article blaming someone else for RLs failures (so that's now the RFU, the old school tie, the Vichy govt, the Establishment, the media and the Dubai govt), no wonder it got a round of applause. It's all part of having a victim mentality, it's never your fault.

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Quote: galliant "So after pages of 'all the media is against RL' someone posts a link to a pro-RL article in the media?
Are you suggesting that the facts detailed in that article are untrue?

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