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Quote: Wigg'n "Eddie, Clarke and O'Connor all need to feck right off. I actually like Stevo and think he's good as a colour commentator, shame he is going to retire this year. Eddie often drags him into stupid slanging matches.

If they want more summarises during games then the best ones are Shaun McRae (think he's in Aus now though), Tony Rea, occasionally Barrie Mc, John Kear and although he sometimes drones on, Paul Cullen talks a lot or sense.'"


Yes like Tony Rea, speaks well and JK is solid.

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Quote: The Devil's Advocate "We get what we’re given, have you not seen the RFL Chairman.

Maybe the majority of S.L viewers were in-fact an underground cult dedicated to the inane ramblings of the commentary team.

Perceived as a minority sport, given a subsequent commentary team, could be worse, they could rope in J.J.B, oh the joy.'"
looooooool,rl fans we're a self deprecating bunch.It's primarily a northern sport,we should have players like jbb drafted in nothing better than an I'll at ease (don't look at the camera)fidgeting, frozen roe deer in headlights when asked a hard question that visibly makes the brain hurt. Gormless mouth breathers neuro linguistically programmed for the whims of underground commentary cultjust what we need.

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Quote: Wigg'n "Eddie, Clarke and O'Connor all need to feck right off. I actually like Stevo and think he's good as a colour commentator, shame he is going to retire this year. Eddie often drags him into stupid slanging matches.

If they want more summarises during games then the best ones are Shaun McRae (think he's in Aus now though), Tony Rea, occasionally Barrie Mc, John Kear and although he sometimes drones on, Paul Cullen talks a lot or sense.'"


That's the problem with Stevo. If allowed to do the job then he's ok....but Eddie on match day and Rod Studd on BackChat insist on forcing out this rambling angry charactour that they think people love to see.

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Quote: mrpurfect "I found myself thinking I agree with every word you say then you slipped in the name Paul Cullen as a Knowledgeable fourth man, now you have lost all credibility.'"
Like him or not, he's a former SL coach and therefore knows a hell of a lot more about the modern game than Eddie, Stevo, Phil Clarke, Barrie McDermott, Terry O'Connor and even Wells and Carney (who as mentioned look like Des Hasler and Craig Bellamy in comparison to the other morons). If you ever watched the match analysis that they used to do on Boots N All years ago, even with a relatively poor coach like Cullen or Tony Rae it was miles ahead of anything else in terms of actual detail and knowledge of the sport.

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Quote: headhunter "Like him or not, he's a former SL coach and therefore knows a hell of a lot more about the modern game than Eddie, Stevo, Phil Clarke, Barrie McDermott, Terry O'Connor and even Wells and Carney (who as mentioned look like Des Hasler and Craig Bellamy in comparison to the other morons). If you ever watched the match analysis that they used to do on Boots N All years ago, even with a relatively poor coach like Cullen or Tony Rae it was miles ahead of anything else in terms of actual detail and knowledge of the sport.'"
its a tough n' were a bit thin on the ground for ready replacements, Cullen yeah knows his stuff but presenting style always found him over officious, a stalinist in a pin stripe suit.stod rudd is about the best

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Quote: headhunter "Like him or not, he's a former SL coach and therefore knows a hell of a lot more about the modern game than Eddie, Stevo, Phil Clarke, Barrie McDermott, Terry O'Connor and even Wells and Carney (who as mentioned look like Des Hasler and Craig Bellamy in comparison to the other morons). If you ever watched the match analysis that they used to do on Boots N All years ago, even with a relatively poor coach like Cullen or Tony Rae it was miles ahead of anything else in terms of actual detail and knowledge of the sport.'"


Agree. Cullen was actually a great analyst on there and pointed out things a lot watchers would miss (quite similar to Gary Neville if you watch that PL show), whereas all O'Connor can do is point out the basics and obsess over forwards and "the forward battle".

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They were even talking about Stevo's PJ's tonight ! Embarrassing ! Time for changes ITV have done it with football with the West Brom fan .

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Quote: headhunter "Like him or not, he's a former SL coach and therefore knows a hell of a lot more about the modern game than Eddie, Stevo, Phil Clarke, Barrie McDermott, Terry O'Connor and even Wells and Carney (who as mentioned look like Des Hasler and Craig Bellamy in comparison to the other morons). If you ever watched the match analysis that they used to do on Boots N All years ago, even with a relatively poor coach like Cullen or Tony Rae it was miles ahead of anything else in terms of actual detail and knowledge of the sport.'"
yep used to like watching/listening to Tony Rea weekly analysis but Cullen just talked nonsense the hole time. you can always tell a good coach because they talk in the language of common sense not gobbledygook.

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Quote: rochdale warrior "They were even talking about Stevo's PJ's tonight ! Embarrassing ! Time for changes ITV have done it with football with the West Brom fan .'"

Not only that but through important passages of play. The presentation style is terrible and the inconsequential stuff is just embarrassing.Russell helicopter, Russell face on video constantly, the black dude who was in his film.I t is a shambles

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Quote: rochdale warrior "They were even talking about Stevo's PJ's tonight ! Embarrassing ! Time for changes ITV have done it with football with the West Brom fan .'"


That’s right, I’d forgotten that one icon_lol.gif .

For goodness sake, how low can it go before someone realises it’s awful.

Or maybe someone has, and their having a right laugh.

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Russell Crowe was the star of the show.

Brian Carney of Ireland wanted the interview and Shane Richardson arranged with Crowe for him to get it.
That is why Richardson said to Carney at the end of his post match interview that you owe me a bottle of .....

Overall the Hollywood glitter was overkill for a match that lacked any drama, but had loads of humiliation.

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Whole attitude of Eddie is wrong - always seeking to 'talk up' everything. Shouldn't criticize enthusiasm, right? Well, no, because it becomes tedious and desperate-sounding. Stop banging on about the 'greatest game' and all that. That's for other people to decide. Someone banging on about it doesn't change anyone's opinion - at the very best, all you're doing is preaching to the converted. If I switched on (say) an Ice Hockey game I'd be far more interested in commentary that explained what was going on (and NOT in a patronizing "for those of you new to game" manner, just straightforward commentary aimed at regular fans - if I liked the spectacle it wouldn't bother me that I might need a few months to understand the nuances of what the EXPERT commentators were going on about). What WOULD really turn me off would be a commentator making a ton of unfunny in-jokes interspersed with banging on about how amazing the thing was that I was watching.

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They are too comfortable and as a result, there's too much Partridge-esque banter; it's positively cringeworthy. O'Connor is a likeable chap, but adds no value, Eddie still doesn't know what he's talking about after god knows how many years as the face of the game, and Clarke has adopted a pseudo-intellectual persona that doesn't suit him at all - particularly when it slips due to his obvious Wigan bias. Cummins is there, apparently, to justify all the errors that the referee makes or, in rare cases when the evidence is overwhelming, to admit that it was an incorrect decision. And while all this weird interpersonal stuff is going on, the game unfolds, often without being called.

Carney and Wells should form the basis of an entirely new team - and please don't wheel out the usual suspects to supplement them; bring in some younger, articulate players to comment on the game with some basis in the reality of its modern form; we've heard enough of John Kear's anecdotes or how many times Barry Mac got sent to Red Hall, to last us a lifetime.

Last night's pathetic effort should be enough to let Sky Sports know that it's run its course - it was amateur and embarrassing; and I don't mean the Saints performance.

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Quote: bren2k "They are too comfortable and as a result, there's too much Partridge-esque banter; it's positively cringeworthy. O'Connor is a likeable chap, but adds no value, Eddie still doesn't know what he's talking about after god knows how many years as the face of the game, and Clarke has adopted a pseudo-intellectual persona that doesn't suit him at all - particularly when it slips due to his obvious Wigan bias. Cummins is there, apparently, to justify all the errors that the referee makes or, in rare cases when the evidence is overwhelming, to admit that it was an incorrect decision. And while all this weird interpersonal stuff is going on, the game unfolds, often without being called.

Carney and Wells should form the basis of an entirely new team - and please don't wheel out the usual suspects to supplement them; bring in some younger, articulate players to comment on the game with some basis in the reality of its modern form; we've heard enough of John Kear's anecdotes or how many times Barry Mac got sent to Red Hall, to last us a lifetime.

Last night's pathetic effort should be enough to let Sky Sports know that it's run its course - it was amateur and embarrassing; and I don't mean the Saints performance.'"

It's funny how Cummins never spoke to anyone when he was in charge of referees now he is trying to justify them all the time when the commentary should be about the match, now it would be good if Mr Ganson "Head of Referees" , that statement itself is joke and part of the reasons why we are having these discussions, would come public and explain why the 2 St George players were not sinbinned at least, but no the silence is deafening.

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Quote: bren2k "They are too comfortable and as a result, there's too much [iPartridge-esque banter[/i; it's positively cringeworthy. O'Connor is a likeable chap, but adds no value, Eddie still doesn't know what he's talking about after god knows how many years as the face of the game, and Clarke has adopted a pseudo-intellectual persona that doesn't suit him at all - particularly when it slips due to his obvious Wigan bias. Cummins is there, apparently, to justify all the errors that the referee makes or, in rare cases when the evidence is overwhelming, to admit that it was an incorrect decision. And while all this weird interpersonal stuff is going on, the game unfolds, often without being called.

Carney and Wells should form the basis of an entirely new team - and please don't wheel out the usual suspects to supplement them; bring in some younger, articulate players to comment on the game with some basis in the reality of its modern form; we've heard enough of John Kear's anecdotes or how many times Barry Mac got sent to Red Hall, to last us a lifetime.

Last night's pathetic effort should be enough to let Sky Sports know that it's run its course - it was amateur and embarrassing; and I don't mean the Saints performance.'"


Thats an insult to Mr Partridge

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