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Quote: wigan_rlfc "Are pain-killing injections 'performance enhancing' or caffine drinks or Lucozade?'"

The issue is not performance enhancing in totality, otherwise pasta would be banned, but illegal performance enhancing substances. That is a judgement call by the powers not the individual. New substances and practices have to be banned before they are illegal. On school of thought is that if a player is liable for any substance in their system why not allow all substances an make the player the ultimate arbiter. I am not in favour of that for a lot of boring reasons but the readers of Spiked magazine possibly would be.

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Quote: Rooster Booster "Same old aussies.... always cheating.

What a bloody joke. They get ONE year, backdated. This country is a joke, when it comes to doing something about their sportspeople who end up being cheats!!!

Let's see if they update their Sanctions page. Though I can't help but notice that the RL players who have been done for steroids all got two years. (3 months for cannabis). So why have this lot got one?


Well if this country is a joke, leave, its that simple.

We dont know much facts about this investigation, but dont let that stop you. You say Gallen is a drug cheat, yet we have never heard that he has failed a drugs test. The only fact we know, is this investigation is a joke, well over a year after the 'Blackest day in Australian sport' is this is were we are. Clearly ASADA do not have enough evidence and this deal is a way of forcing players to essentially 'admit' their guilt. Whats the point in fighting a few game ban when the alternative could be months in court and costly legals bills. Theres only a few including Gallen who will really lose out.

We simply dont know which players if any, knew anything. You are kiddying yourself if you really think a player is going to question a qualified sports scientist. Off course you would trust them and your clubs supplement programme, why would you? Are you seriously expecting every player to question ever supplement/injection they are given???? So when the doctor/sports scientist says its fine, do you take it then???? The people who run these programmes and the club themselves are responsible for all of this.

It annoys me how the common denominator in all of this will continue to get away with it. No doubt some idiots will still employ Stephen Dank.

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So if it comes out that Aiton is actually banned and does play in the final, will the RFL end up in a situation where they will have to hand Cas the cup by default due to Leeds playing an ineligible player regardless of the result?

That would be a PR nightmare, to say the least. Hopefully nothing like that over shadows the game.

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Quote: Gronk! "So if it comes out that Aiton is actually banned and does play in the final, will the RFL end up in a situation where they will have to hand Cas the cup by default due to Leeds playing an ineligible player regardless of the result?

That would be a PR nightmare, to say the least. Hopefully nothing like that over shadows the game.'"

Most stupid post in a long time. Really crap troll.

GH and now Mac have both stated (one more time for the trolls) the player, the club and the RFL have not had any contact from ASADA or WADA and Aiton is not a part of the investigation. He hasn't been issued with a notice.

So how you get Leeds being stripped of the cup from that says you are daft as a brush.

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Quote: sgtwilko "Most stupid post in a long time. Really crap troll.

GH and now Mac have both stated (one more time for the trolls) the player, the club and the RFL have not had any contact from ASADA or WADA and Aiton is not a part of the investigation. He hasn't been issued with a notice.

So how you get Leeds being stripped of the cup from that says you are daft as a brush.'"


Wasn't a troll, was a legitimate question sorry if you didn't like it 6.65087890625:5
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