So expansion isn't growth?

Nobody wants any clubs to be weak. The fact is that the majority of Championship clubs are unlikely to progress too much beyond the level they are currently at, because they are based in areas where the potential for growth is extremely limited. For some reason, fans of these clubs seem to believe that they should warrant a disproportionate amount of effort and attention simply because they are otherwise unable to compete. Denying them that doesn't mean that anyone wants the clubs to remain weak. It just means that the clubs aren't big enough to compete at the top level in the modern era.

Growth isnt expansion.

Completely agree, but it seems to me that you are talking clubs whereas i am actually discussing a whole competition , however if the fans of these clubs accept what you suggest they should do then they will ultimatley wither and die, if say Featherstone were to aquire a billionaire investor , would they be considered ' big ' enough?

All i actually want is all clubs in all competitions to be given the same respect, but when i look at what has so far been done to make the Championships ( both of them ) " Vibrant, worth winning in their own right competitions " , I dont see anything of genuine value, simple as

What areas are these?

If Featherstone acquired a billionaire investor, they would clearly be able to compete at SL level simply because they would have the financial power to do so, they would be the richest club in the league. But the impact that a billionaire would have from investing in a club like Featherstone would be limited compared to what could be achieved elsewhere. It's a redundant argument anyway since I don't think there are too many billionaires or even potential investors in Featherstone.
What would constitute 'respect' to you, other than unconditionally giving disproportionate amounts of money to undeserving clubs?

So you agree, it is all about money , and why would it be limited? ,if they had the money, they could achieve whatever they wanted, but you are correct , why would anybody invest in a club that cannot be promoted?

Headhunter, when you talk do you bend over the toilet to stop people slipping in it?

I can't decide if you're for real or just a parody of the traits found in an idiot!

Is this a common problem you have? I've just never heard of people slipping in toilets unless there is someone bent over talking in to is.

Well done, classic smokey!

Trying to be smart but typing meaningless drivel! Can you manage English and sentences or are you just fluent in nonsense?

Nice to see you sticking up for your little mini me chum though smokey. You make a lovely couple!

Why are you still unable to differentiate between having a good on-field team and being a strong club? If a billionaire invested in Featherstone and bought the best players and coaches, sorted out the infrastructure and virtually made them a model club, then the benefit to the game wouldn't be as much as if, for example, the billionaire had done the same thing at a club like Salford with a far bigger untapped catchment area. If Featherstone won Super League they would still not be a particularly big club, the area is already saturated with RL, there is very little potential for growth and honestly they probably do well to be as big as they currently are. And the whole argument is completely irrelevant because there is virtually no chance of this happening. Not because they 'can't be promoted' ( ), but because Featherstone is not the type of club or town that is going to attract investment, for obvious reasons.

I understand Headhunters' valid point.

Somewhere between what they have done ( which consists of gimmicks like the NRC 9 s, Toulouses inclusion with different rules, and a non paying midweek TV deal ) and what you suggest, but essentially looking at where clubs actually need help and using money to achieve that help, but not giving it to hotels and airlines

We need the fans of our towns wanting to attend matches at our stadiums, not to attend SL games, or to attend SL GFs and Internationals , it is strange that never having bought a SL ticket via the interet but having bought Interational tikets from the RFL, i now find myself on SL club databases

Most if not all non SL clubs will have little money or expertise to spend on marketing it is there where money could be spent, so no, dont blindly give Championship clubs money, but spend it ON them where it will most benifit them

I think the point he's making is that that, because the game is so strongly based in the heartlands that there's a great deal of overlap with a lot of clubs. Most championship clubs have at least one if not more than one SL neighbour and that is going to take away from those championship clubs.