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Quote: CM Punk "A lot of the Tomkins & Charnley defensive problems come from having Deacon at Scrum Half, and they are targeted much more often than Richards/Carmont/Finch on the other side.

In attack they're a very potent combination, Charnley can be a game breaker by himself, as he's shown numerous times this season. And Joel isn't exactly short on pace either.

Charnley
Tomkins
Yeaman
Briscoe

Best 3/4s we can have atm IMO'"


Tomkins and Charnley get caught out on a weekly basis in Super League, but it's covered up by the rest of the team. You can't expose that to Australia no matter how much of a Wigan fan you are.

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not got a problem with hall...i actually think hall,charnley,briscoe and j-mac are as good as anything the aussies and kiwis have...the likes of brett morris and jason nightingale are'nt special

im just thinking as a unit 2guys that know each other game is better than chucking 2 other guys together that don't...theres method in my madness icon_lol.gif.....and the wigan pairing on one side and the hull pairing on the other would work really well imo

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Quote: roughyedspud "i put it to everyone that

1. sam tomkins
2. josh charnley
3. joel tomkins
4. kirk yeaman
5. tom briscoe
6. gareth widdop
7. danny brough

is the most potent 1-7 we could field since the 1994 wembley ashes test'"


Yes, yes and yes! I've been harping on about this for a while now. The main problem we have with our flanks when playing the Aussies is an inability to defend there. What's the point of throwing four players on the pitch to cover those areas if they don't play with each other week in week out. Two club pairs is what is needed! A pair spend the whole year or even careers running side by side in defence and attack, they know each others games and whereabouts like second nature. Why not take advantage of that? Why make four lads, new to each other try and learn each others games in two weeks?

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Briscoe and Yeaman are a must, they have been sensational this year, especially Briscoe, he can open up a defence.

IMO we should play Leon Pryce in the centres. Great runner and great defender, he is a class above Joel Tomkins in that kind of position. JT won't create gaps etc, he wil just run hard and tackle his heart out.

We need speed IMO on the wings. Charnely could be an option but he is not good enough in defence for international level yet!

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Quote: roughyedspud "not got a problem with hall...i actually think hall,charnley,briscoe and j-mac are as good as anything the aussies and kiwis have...the likes of brett morris and jason nightingale are'nt special

im just thinking as a unit 2guys that know each other game is better than chucking 2 other guys together that don't...theres method in my madness
Or the Huddersfield pairing?

Using the same theory, it makes me wonder if Brough, Brown and Robinson would be more potent as an attacking unit in the SH, SO and Hooker roles than a mixture combination of players who don't know each other.

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or the huddersfield pairing absolutely...not got a issue in that...i just think the wigan & hull pairing is better

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1. Sam Tomkins
2. Ben Jones Bishop
3. Jack Reed
4. Kirk Yeaman
5. Tom Briscoe
6. Gaz Widdop
7. Danny Brough

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So what do we have as far as English 3/4 partnerships go over here?

Briscoe - Yeaman
Charnley - Tomkins
BJB - Watkins
Hall - Ablett
Broughton - Gibson (?)

Who else?

And as far as i'm concerned I'd have Briscoe and Hall on the wings for a certainty with whoever inside them as in all honesty, they are all average on the world stage and pretty similar in the SL. If we had centres that were decent we wouldnt have this thread icon_lol.gif

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does'nt matter how many pairings we have as long as we have 2 decent ones.....and we do

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Either way you look at it, it is a lot stronger than the last decade. At least we're not looking at Richard Horne playing on the wing anymore.

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People have put Jack Reed on the right. I pretty certain he has played most of this year at left centre. Anyway, its by the by as he wont be available.

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Quote: Alex Mc "People have put Jack Reed on the right. I pretty certain he has played most of this year at left centre. Anyway, its by the by as he wont be available.'"


Correct, he plays left centre. I'd personally go Bridge and Reed in the centres with Briscoe on the left wing. Right winger is a toss up between a few for me.

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If you are not part of the solution then you are more likely part of the problem...:



I think you make a very valid point regards club partnerships at international level. I remember the 1992 series down in Oz when the entire GB pack was from Wigan although many would argue that individually certain players were not the best in their particular position.

Any sort of advantage we use has got to be considered cos lets face it we need it to compete with or even beat the big 2.

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id play mcgilvaray on right wing

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1 Ben jones
2 Hall
3 Watkins
4 Bridge
5 Cudjoe

6 Tomkins
7 Brough

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