Fair play, although I would suggest that Wilkin was over exaggerating and didn't seem to be injured. Rugby League is a tough game played by tough players, injuries happen and that is unfortunate, but I don't think I've recently seen an injury caused by a Wigan player who went out to deliberately cause an injury? Lima in the Millenium Magic games was out of order, I'd suggest that the chicken wing on Soliola (think it was Soliola?) was a very bad challenge (can't be called a tackle imo) and he was rightly banned because of it. Had there been challenges like Newton on Long then I'd be the first to agree, but I just haven't see this intent to cause injury.

You might not have done, but do you not think it's a tad suspicious that so many experienced professionals have said it? It's not like it's just one journalist, his work is basically a wrap up of what so many have said since Maguire has been here, and a lot of them haven't been made directly after a defeat to Wigan either so there is little to suggest it's just bitterness.



Mick Potter isn't one to get into mind games or politics either.

Of course it is suspicious, but surely because of the suspicion and interest it would have been proven by now, and we'd have a long list of injuries to point at and say "Look what Wigan players have done!". Just because people are saying something en masse doesn't make it a fact. I can see very little difference in the way we have defended this year (other than we haven't been as good ) and the way we defended last year. Yet last year the talk was about Wigan lying on, not Wigan trying to hurt players. The only difference I can see is that Lima (rightly) got banned for a chicken wing and then a lot of people used that to claim Wigan are trying to hurt players. I think we'll have differing opinions on the challenge on Clarkson, I think it was on a player that was still moving forward, not held and was above the knee, but in someways that's irrelevant as he was found guilty, banned and so missed another game. So that's two incidents in which a Wigan player (the same player) has put in what has been found to be a dangerous challenge and has been banned. Does that mean that Wigan go out to deliberately injure the opposition players?

If you provide some facts and figures to suggest we injure more players than other teams, then ill start to listen to this argument, at the moment its all hearsay and strikes me as bitterness towards Wigan boiling over like usual.

All maguire has done is bring some NRL tacking techniques to SL, the SL is always playing catchup because it wont innovate, just criticise. England RL will get thrashed in the Autumn partly due to this.

So again I point out the fact that this is why the aussies are so far ahead of us, because we are unwilling to grasp new tactics and any time a new tactic is introduced we are quick to say we don't want that in our game. Well, if these new defensive tactics help us beat the Aussies we should use them! They are not outlawed within the game and personally I feel alot of them are fictional nonsense anyway!

Champions 2010! Maguire doesn't need words to shut the media and the likes of you up, he does his talking on the pitch and lets his coaching do the talking- Champions 2010!

Miss, Jeff Lima just threw his pencil at me but Michael told him to do it.

As numerous Wigan fans have said. If we're going out to deliberately hurt players then we're either really crap at it or it isn't our intention at all otherwise there would be a long list. Surely Jeff Lima would have ended someone's career by now if he was what people are saying he is??

How long was he on the floor being treated or out injured?

Maybe we should just go back to the Newton style tackling, that would suit everyone I suppose!

There are certain 'teqnuiques' which are outlawed in the rules and rightly so, because they are dangerous. Chicken Wing being an example of that. Other examples would include a high tackle. Do you all suggest any team which commits a high tackle are accused of deliberatly trying to injure opponents?

Wigan's defensive tactics involve getting numbers into a tackle, all teams do that, they involve trying to slow the play the ball down by holding a player up to increase the length of time between contact and the tackle being deemed complete. All teams try to do that, just we do it better than most, Huddersfield are on a par.

To suggest an entire team takes to the field of play with the sole intention of injuring opponents is ludicrus. If a coach was really intent on doing this i doubt he would get one or two professional players onside never mind an entire team. Also if this was the case, as mentioned by others there would be a large number of serious injuries everytime Wigan take the field, this simply is not the case.

If/when a player does overstep the mark he will get penalised and banned as Lima has proved, however it is more a case of a player getting tackle wrong than premeditated intent.

I have seen a number of chicken wings, grapple tackles and other incidents on sky's televised games this year. Why is it that people are only interested in the couple of incidents ONE wigan player has done?

The only TRUE evidence of a SL coach threatening to instruct his players to intentionally injure/hurt opposition players has been Nathan Brown in his post match interviews.

Twice. Last season and a few weeks ago.

What action has been taken against this

No player has been injured due to these tactics which it is suggested may cause injury to players. Andy Wilson does confirm this in his article.
Lima's tackle on Soliola was bad and he got banned. Lima then got binned then banned for tackling the standing leg of a player who was running!
Too much is being made of all this, usually coaches who have just suffered a defeat by Wigan.
Wrestling techniques have been around for decades. When was the Cumberland Throw banned?
This is old news from Andy Wilson who seems to be doing to much recycling!

So wait, we have to actually wait for a player to have a serious injury by these tactics before we take note? That doesn't strike you as silly.

Anyway, regardless of this. I wish refs would start penalising Tomkins for his blatant cheating in the tackle. How many times is he going to hold a players arm so he cannot get away from the tackle. It's shocking.

Tried it today and the ref was having none of it. He then decided to play rather than cheat and destroyed Trinity with his invention and evasive skills.

When referees start penalising players for putting their arm in there trying to knock the ball out. Swings and roundabouts.

Lol this has to be the funniest homer post on rlfans. If you cannot see Sam pulling off this crap, then I feel sorry for you. It's a mockery of the game.