I never mentioned the pace of Samuel or Antoine. They are both sidestepping wizards though. Thomas Johnston is just fast and has no big sidestep. Leeds Rhinos product Benjamin Jones Bishop is massively overrated, especially by woeful Wakefield fans.

Many people seem to have forgotten that Catalans are well served not only by Samuel Tomkins and Antoine Gigot, but are also blessed by a dazzling three quarter line that consists of Jodie Broughton, David Mead, Brayden Williame, and Lewis Tierney.

Now even for you that’s beyond the pale. Ask Hudds fans in particular if TJ and BJB don’t have side stepping as a part of their games as both have scored wonder tries against them.

You don’t score as many tries as TJ did last year by pure speed alone or are you of all people suggesting such an ordinary side as the mid table Wakefield create them?

Why not, ignoring him hasn’t made him go away has it. He didn’t say pace but I’d suggest ‘scintillating’ suggest it.

Where did he say anything about pace? Gigot is a lance todd winner whilst Sam Tomkins is a man of steel winner. What have those 2 wakefield plodders achieved other than a popularity vote undertaken by mainly Wakefield fans

Aye if you can't win the argument come back as someone else.

So you're saying Gigot and Tomkins are plodders then, hard to be scintilating without pace but hey you'd know.

Tomkins WAS a man of steel winner, somebody has to win the Lance Todd, Johnston WAS the young player of the year, so what's your point.

Oh and yup Tom's a plodder

3 Grand final rings? SL young player of the year? Tell you what I would not take either of those 2 over TJ at this point in time, not seen Tomkins have a good game in years but if it suits your agenda to start banging on about a man of steel award from 6 years ago then so be it Our current number 7 has won the man of steel since then

(in the style of the great Norwegian commentator...)

Ruune Rebellion, RobinRovers10, Him, TrojanHorse, BullsBoy2011, captaincaveman, nottinghamtiger, number 6, Jean Capdouze, The Printer, rollin thunder, little wayne 69, Cokey, clearwing, Shifty Cat, Jonnothedistinctlyaverage, Dave K, Nothus, Gallanteer, The Dreadnought, wrencat1873, Fully, steadygetyourboots, Parkside Freddie, cas all the way, wolfinwidnes1.... your dreadful predictions took ONE HELL OF A BEATING!


And yup, I've been waiting all season to post this as I knew plenty of posters on here would be left with egg on their faces for tipping Salford for 11th/12th. Good job "someone" knowledgeable predicted Salford's spine would be hugely influential this season.

Here you go Dave K.....

Not too bad I think. Got Wakey slightly wrong but genuinely believe they got a rough ride with injuries to key players and would have been fighting for play-offs with a fitter squad. Hull should have made tip 5 but there has to be something fundamentally wrong to get so many drubbings this season with the personnel they have at their disposal.

And tbf we did.