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Cas - woeful production line, woeful back-room set-up and woeful, back of a fag-packet application - they thought it was a foregone?'"
Made me chuckle that. A two thousand page application made on the back of a fag packet. Forty five staff servicing 70 academy lads.
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| Quote: Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza "Given you’ve dodged the question I’m going with the former.'"
Uncanny how everything I guessed was correct.
Weird.
I realise it's a difficult thing to do for a Bulls fan, but just accept that I am far better connected to the detail than you, and that you were wrong. Go on, do it, admit it - it would be an iconic moment.
I won't be sharing sources - stupid of you to even ask. |
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| Quote: Tigerade "Made me chuckle that. A two thousand page application made on the back of a fag packet. Forty five staff servicing 70 academy lads.
More homework required Dboy. ![]()
Oh dear.
Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.
Is your keyboard broken???
Do you actually believe what you just wrote?
2000 pages?
You think you have 70 academy players, and that they are serviced on a better than 2:1 ratio?
Cas tigers don't even have 45 staff, never mind working in the academy.
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No - I’m right.
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| Quote: Tigerade "Regarding production line.....
It's a piece written by Cas to try and justify their academy - and it fails!
It boasts "Michael Shenton, Adam Milner, Nathan Massey, Oliver Holmes, James Clare, Greg Eden and Liam Watts" = not a single one of them produced under the last academy licence, issued in 2016.
Cas academy is FILLED with talented youngsters and has been for years. That virtually none have been brought through to the first team by the club is a travesty.
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| Quote: dboy "Uncanny how everything I guessed was correct.
Weird.
I realise it's a difficult thing to do for a Bulls fan, but just accept that I am far better connected to the detail than you, and that you were wrong. Go on, do it, admit it - it would be an iconic moment.
I won't be sharing sources - stupid of you to even ask.'"
Everything you guessed came true? Ha ha ha you even admitted on the last page that you didn’t give any detail until after the announcement today.
Your exact words were “the wider rugby league community know why those clubs were rejected” and you still got it wrong.
Great work Nostradamus.
Fact is no one was party to the behind closed doors discussions over the last couple of weeks. We can draw our own conclusions from that. I am quite cynical and think that this whole thing was political and to avoid the risk of ending up in the court of arbitration for sport the RFL had to give those clubs elite academy licenses. This way Ralf can save face and kick the can down the road but that’s just my opinion. I’m certainly not going to try and dress that up as fact and claim I’m in the know.
You crack me up dboy you’re a good ‘un ha ha. |
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I didn't give any detail about the 3 clubs specific failings until the last page (though Cas not producing any players was pretty much obvious to all anyway).
It's quite a few days since I said the clubs would receive a 2 year licence.
I think I have also written somewhere, that in the case of the Bulls, it will all have been "someone else's fault".
Uncanny, eh?
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Obviously reading isn’t one of your strong points.....
“However, over the past five years, Castleford’s Academy has been involved in bringing through ten players that have gone on to represent the club at Super League level. These names include Tom Holmes, Connor Fitzsimmons, Brandon Douglas, Jake Trueman, Calum Turner, Jacques O’Neill, Lewis Peachey, Sam Hall, Brad Graham and Bailey Hodgson.”
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| Quote: dboy "I didn't give any detail about the 3 clubs specific failings until the last page (though Cas not producing any players was pretty much obvious to all anyway).
It's quite a few days since I said the clubs would receive a 2 year licence.
I think I have also written somewhere, that in the case of the Bulls, it will all have been "someone else's fault".
Uncanny, eh?'"
It’s a few days since you said you thought it would be fairer if Hull KR got a 2 year licence.
As for your comment re. Bulls you’re trying to pass off my opinion as 1 fan with no way of knowing what discussions went on as proof of what exactly?
Real nosey Parker stuff this. |
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| Quote: Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza "It’s a few days since you said you thought it would be fairer if Hull KR got a 2 year licence.
As for your comment re. Bulls you’re trying to pass off my opinion as 1 fan with no way of knowing what discussions went on as proof of what exactly?
Real nosey Parker stuff this.'"
Unsure about the Bulls detail, but thought they would get a reprieve, as 2 sports were available to fill.
Cas do not actually deserve a reprieve, but by backing down to 2 clubs, they have made it impossible to do otherwise. |
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“Cas do not actually deserve a reprieve”.
Why not?
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| Quote: Tigerade "Obviously reading isn’t one of your strong points.....
“However, over the past five years, Castleford’s Academy has been involved in bringing through ten players that have gone on to represent the club at Super League level. These names include Tom Holmes, Connor Fitzsimmons, Brandon Douglas, Jake Trueman, Calum Turner, Jacques O’Neill, Lewis Peachey, Sam Hall, Brad Graham and Bailey Hodgson.”'"
The names don't "include" those products - that's it! In 5 years!
Embarrassing.
Holmes = ave. 4 games per season
Douglas = 2 games 2016-18
Fitzimmons = 2 games in 2017 - now in Cumbria.
Trueman not even a Cas product! Signed for Cas in January and played first team in June.
Turner 15 games - now at Newcastle
Hall = 1 game
Graham = 1 game in 2020 |
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