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Quote: Salford red all over "I think you want to revise that before shooting from the hip, the one bit you got right was there is a Jacksonville in Florida. So you're saying that the Jacksonville team that is in the USARL (the Jacksonville he was talking about) isn't from Florida?

Nope, it's you that needs to revise that. The Jax Axe are most certainly a team from Florida.

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Quote: little wayne69 "It's also in New York which just happens to be the area under discussion regarding setting up a new team not in Florida as you seem to think, maybe it's time to go and hold the wife's hand.'"

Bless, you actually tried to contribute and got it totally wrong. You're in now, you'll have to try again.

Jacksonville that play in the USARL (the one he was clearly talking about) is a team based on Florida. He's even admitted it, which is fair play to him.

Classy comment to finish off with, too. I must be less of a man for being told that one...

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Quote: wrencat1873 "Here we go again

Apologies for my USA geography, Brooklyn Kings are the New York side in their Northern conference icon_biggrin.gif
This thread is so much 'off topic' it's now a Geography competition !

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Quote: Salford red all over "NO he said this to you [iif you consider that Jacksonville is a suburb of New York,[/i
and you said this ...............

[iI think you desperately need to look at a map! Jacksonville is in Florida![/i.'"

It's called context. He was talking about the USARL. He was talking about the teams in the USARL. Why would he randomly mention a place called Jacksonville in NY?

He was talking about a rugby league team in NY. He mistook this for Jacksonville (who aren't based on NY, they're based in Florida). He's already admitted he was mistaken

But yeah, you thinking he was randomly talking about place called Jacksonville in NY that was completely irrelevant to the discussion and completely unrelated to the rugby league team if you wish. You'd be completely and utterly wrong though and it will only make you look even more stupid.

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Quote: Budgiezilla "Where's Durham Giant when you need him ? It's not really a competition to be fair icon_wink.gif

Fair point though. I'm not even sure how it became about foreign teams!

So, Magic Weekend...

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Quote: Wellsy13 "It's not really a competition to be fair
It's in Liverpool, Merseyside, England ! icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Budgiezilla "Where's Durham Giant when you need him ?
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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



So then...back to the original question.
If we get to Magic weekend and t looks like Leeds/Wigan are in any danger of going down, will there be a hastily arranged meeting of the SL chairmen to expand to 14 and welcome toronto and another team up?

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Quote: Call Me God "So then...back to the original question.
If we get to Magic weekend and t looks like Leeds/Wigan are in any danger of going down, will there be a hastily arranged meeting of the SL chairmen to expand to 14 and welcome toronto and another team up?'"


If anybody says no they won’t will you believe/accept it anyway?

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: ThePrinter "If anybody says no they won’t will you believe/accept it anyway?'"

I've asked a question, so of course I will accept someone else's opinion, regardless of if I believe it to be right or wrong. Believing it is nether here nor there.
For me the comp cannot survive the demise of either of the 2 best supported clubs in the game at the moment.....the idea of Leeds or Wigan being relegated and the game losing at least over 10% of it's top tier gates is unthinkable. We are not football, we don't have the depth of support football has.
When Bradford went down, they were averaging 6k......that was bad enough, but tempered with the loss of London who were themselves dragging the average down, neither side averaged ABOVE the comp figure that year......

Perspective is everything, especially to advertising execs. 140,881 fans attended Leeds Home Regular season games in 2018, of 1,100,508 who attended the 11 home games at each ground that season. 13% of the fans who attended regular season games, did so at Leeds games. 11% at Wigan.......these are two of only 3 current SL sides who have won the comp and are arguably the 2 biggest names in the game in the modern era, along with maybe St Helens.

If London were to be relegated (as I believe we will) the impact would be more circumstantial than factual, with the loss of a capital presence felt, but the loss of over 10% of the fanbase that SL broadcasters want would be far greater.

Wigan's gates this year are abysmal....10% down on last year, 3k down on 3 years ago....and they are the champions......the game is in a tailspin and losing one of the big clubs would be a catastrophe.....IMHO that is.

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Quote: Call Me God "I've asked a question, so of course I will accept someone else's opinion, regardless of if I believe it to be right or wrong. Believing it is nether here nor there.
For me the comp cannot survive the demise of either of the 2 best supported clubs in the game at the moment.....the idea of Leeds or Wigan being relegated and the game losing at least over 10% of it's top tier gates is unthinkable. We are not football, we don't have the depth of support football has.
When Bradford went down, they were averaging 6k......that was bad enough, but tempered with the loss of London who were themselves dragging the average down, neither side averaged ABOVE the comp figure that year......

Perspective is everything, especially to advertising execs. 140,881 fans attended Leeds Home Regular season games in 2018, of 1,100,508 who attended the 11 home games at each ground that season. 13% of the fans who attended regular season games, did so at Leeds games. 11% at Wigan.......these are two of only 3 current SL sides who have won the comp and are arguably the 2 biggest names in the game in the modern era, along with maybe St Helens.

If London were to be relegated (as I believe we will) the impact would be more circumstantial than factual, with the loss of a capital presence felt, but the loss of over 10% of the fanbase that SL broadcasters want would be far greater.

Wigan's gates this year are abysmal....10% down on last year, 3k down on 3 years ago....and they are the champions......the game is in a tailspin and losing one of the big clubs would be a catastrophe.....IMHO that is.'"

That's two threads I've had to agree with you on, I need to lie down in a dark room icon_eek.gif

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Quote: Wellsy13 "To Super League quality?'"


I didn't realise it had to be in its first season

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Quote: Egg Chasing "I didn't realise it had to be in its first season'"

Well by entering the British system, they could have a SL quality team playing other SL quality teams within 5 years (that's the goal).

How long do you think it would take to get the USARL up to anywhere near that quality and prestige?

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