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| Ref was poor 2nd half but used to poor refs tbh so onto the game.
Tomkins, Hall, Briscoe, Yeaman and Reed went well today, the rest were shocking. Summed it up for me when Sinfield was looking other way organising the next play when Chase passed out of a tackle. Same happened later with Peacock.
These are internationals FFS, the under 14's we coach have it drilled into them to never take their eyes off the ball till they actually caught it!!!!
Aussies were better than us, defended better , expected the passes and won the game end of, play people in proper positions and may do better IMO
Still think Brough or Myler should have been in at 7, kicking game today was shocking and Sinfield couldn't beat an egg at 6.
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| First things first. Apart from the result, that was most enjoyable game of RUGBY I've seen in the last twelve months.
England came out and played with a speed and intensity that I haven't seen, from either England/GB, seen since the 95 world cup. What they were lacking is a loose forward of the Andy Farrell or Paul Sculthorpe calibre!!! The type of LF that can guide the team around the park and take control, whilst being solid in defence. I rate Sinfield, he deserves his place, but both he and O'Loughlin, just, lack that extra bit quality Farrell and Scully brought to the team.
That said, some of the endeavour in first 20/30 minutes, was excellent and both Chase and Sinfield played some good stuff. Unfortunately, both made some crucial errors, wtf Chase was doing with that kick? It was out and out stupid.
Part of what makes the Aussies look so good is the speed at which they play the came, for the first time in along time England stood up and matched that level of intensity. Like others have pointed out, our boys just need to find that extra bit of quality in the last 20. England's job, now, is to get over that game, then go out and display that kind of effort next week.
I can't stand Graham, but the speed of our play did seem to drop, once he went off injured.
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| I think people are getting carried away because a few tries were scored. I didn't think England played with anywhere near the intensity of many matches over recent years. If Australia had a FB who could tackle we might not have scored so many!
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| I think people are getting carried away because a fe tries were scored. I didn't think australia played with anywhere near the intensity of many matches over recent years. If england had made a few better reads in defence australia might not have scored so many!
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| I think people are getting carried away because a fe tries were scored. I didn't think australia played with anywhere near the intensity of many matches over recent years. If england had a better Reed in defence australia might not have scored so many!
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| Quote: The Clan "How was Williams high shot on Westwood any different to Edwards on Clyde or Morley on Kearns?
Should have been sent off and unless we reach the final it will be Wales and NZ who benefit from his suspension which is sod all use to England.
Chase was ineffective again, missed a few vital tackles, turned the ball over to Australia from a naive decision to go for touch on a 20mtr drop out resulting in a try for Austala.
Threw a stupid intercept result, try to Australia.
Referee gave some poor and one eyed decisions agains England, well done Tim Sheens, starting with a harsh penalty early doors on Weswood, penalising Westwood again for a fair tackle on Thaiday, Briscoes no try/try, Yeaman tackled/not tackled etc..
McNamaras pi55 poor decision to exclude Carvell was another factor.'"
Very good summary.
Ignore Rancid and Bull4crap or whatever he is called.
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| I agree with Rancid re Briscoe in that from memory Hall played much better (even ignoring his tries) than Briscoe did.
Just one thought. Did we only put up one Bomb all game? Then scored from it.
One more thing. Perenara may be a "Kiwi" but only in the same way that Australian's actually called Ashley Klein "English" ie. Henry has lived over here in Oz as a player first, for years and is an Australian trained ref.
One other, one more thing. If Australia allegedly play badly, consider the notion that the opposition are making them do so.
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| Quote: Sheepridge Giant "Good turn out,but dare I say it after 31 years of London RL why wasn't it sold out.'" As a matter of interest, could you explain why, after 116 years of Rugby League in Huddersfield, the much smaller McAlpine/Galpharm Stadium has entirely failed since it was built to sell out a single test or international match, including several GB vs Australia? After all you are the birthplace of the great game and have big clubs near at hand in West Yorkshire.
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| Quote: Rooster Booster "I agree with Rancid re Briscoe in that from memory Hall played much better (even ignoring his tries) than Briscoe did.
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And how many try scoring opportunities did Briscoe get? Certainly Briscoe took the ball up better than Hall for the most part, not dissing Hall as his tries were top drawer but saying Briscoe played worse is just inaccurate.
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| Both wingers played well and deserve to keep their place but Briscoe made a poor effort of his one scoring chance.
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| Quote: The Magic Rat "Both wingers played well and deserve to keep their place but Briscoe made a poor effort of his one scoring chance.'"
The one he actually scored?
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| A couple of superb performances and one or two poor ones.
What really infuriates me is the Yeaman/Briscoe partnership, they looked like strangers.
The Chase kick and the Westwood penalty cost us through in the little errors we had because our week in week out intensity isn't there and there's your 16 points.
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| The Aussies appeared to kick the ball towards Briscoe, in attempt expose an easy target, but England seemed to move the ball better left to right, resulting in Hall getting more ball in their 20m area. As both teams tired, the Aussies started to kick in Hall's direction and he looked dangerous. Infact, for once we looked to have wing/centre combo that wasn't going to get destroyed by the size of Inglis.
Hall, beyond any shadow of a doubt, had the better centre partner, Reed is a class act and has the potential to be the best English centre since Connolly and Newlove. Maybe I'm getting a little carried away, but he seems to have the head on his shoulders to make the right decision when running at full pace. If he made a mistake or two in defence, then he will learn. I remember a certain Martin Gleeson getting exposed by the Kiwi's a few years back, and he went on to become probably best centre England have had over the last 10-15 years.
Without Shenton, Yeaman might be the best we've got, but for England's sake we need to find a better centre partner for Briscoe. Yeaman just didn't look as if he's got the size, strength or quality for international RL. Some of the goal line defence down the left was woeful, although that wasn't just Yeaman's fault. I really hope he proves me wrong next week. At the moment England need another option, if we're going to compete at the World cup. Maybe Charnley should be groomed for that role.
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| Quote: LincolnDEVILSFan "The Aussies appeared to kick the ball towards Briscoe, in attempt expose an easy target, but England seemed to move the ball better left to right, resulting in Hall getting more ball in their 20m area. As both teams tired, the Aussies started to kick in Hall's direction and he looked dangerous. Infact, for once we looked to have wing/centre combo that wasn't going to get destroyed by the size of Inglis.
Hall, beyond any shadow of a doubt, had the better centre partner, Reed is a class act and has the potential to be the best English centre since Connolly and Newlove. Maybe I'm getting a little carried away, but he seems to have the head on his shoulders to make the right decision when running at full pace. If he made a mistake or two in defence, then he will learn. I remember a certain Martin Gleeson getting exposed by the Kiwi's a few years back, and he went on to become probably best centre England have had over the last 10-15 years.
Without Shenton, Yeaman might be the best we've got, but for England's sake we need to find a better centre partner for Briscoe. Yeaman just didn't look as if he's got the size, strength or quality for international RL. Some of the goal line defence down the left was woeful, although that wasn't just Yeaman's fault. I really hope he proves me wrong next week. At the moment England need another option, if we're going to compete at the World cup. Maybe Charnley should be groomed for that role.'"
we do have other option for centre you know, leroy cudjoe...
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| England played with a structure and plan for pretty much the whole game. We were always able to make ground against the aussies - which is the first time in many years that we haven't thrown the game plan away after 10 mins and reverted to 1 off drives.
We showed we could break the aussie defence and that we could contain the aussies for large parts of the game.
I've never been a big fan of mcnamara but credit to him - we looked a well coached side. I think swapping widdop for chase and putting carvell on the bench are the two things he can improve on.
The aussies showed us how to take their chances every time they were in our quarter of the field. THat was the difference between the two teams.
It doesn't help that the ref failed in around 3 big calls. The aussies are too clinical a team to get that sort of help and lose. Take the ref out of the occasion and we were looking at least a 12 point turnaround in the scores and then anything could happen in the last 10 mins.
Previous england teams would have folded in the last 30 mins - we stayed in the game this time.
We now seem to have more than a few players who can cause the aussies a proble,.
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