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| The way I’m looking at it is that if it had have been the other way around with us going for a final second win, would Tonga or anyone else been bothered about us? Would they hell, so stuff it, the scoreboard says we won. Job done!
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| Jon Wilkins talking out of his arris. Thats a loose carry every day in SL. Whitehead went for the ball yes, but he made enough of an effort for it to be a legitimate attempt at a tackle and its the ball carriers responsibility to keep hold of the ball.
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| Seen umpteen replays now. Clear loose carry. Downo and Dally talking out of their down unders - what a surprise!
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| Rewound it, played it back five times now... at first I thought it should have been a try but I’m starting to see it as a loose carry but only just
Slow it down; Fafita has a part of his arm on the ball when the ball drops after Whitehead loses contact with the ball
...loose carry
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| If you go back a few plays you'll see that the ball was taken from the England winger in similar circumstances.The ref didn't blow on that occasion so he could hardly blow up when England do the same.
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| Quote: downo "oh my, just saw the replay on the news, what a horrible farce, Tonga should have won, the ref made a terrible blunder
Your country arent good enough to beat Tonga, they should feel terribly cheated'"
Fake news Bruce. You should have watched the whole game.
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| Quote: silver2 "If you go back a few plays you'll see that the ball was taken from the England winger in similar circumstances.The ref didn't blow on that occasion so he could hardly blow up when England do the same.'"
He wasn't consistent - gave a knock on against Tonga on second tackle earlier in game when they were a few yards from our line when Tom Burgess clearly reefed it in a 3 man tackle.
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| Quote: silver2 "If you go back a few plays you'll see that the ball was taken from the England winger in similar circumstances.The ref didn't blow on that occasion so he could hardly blow up when England do the same.'"
But England didn't get the ball back so he didn't have to rule whether it was or knock or not.
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| Clear as day a loose carry and knock on at the end. Poor pundit comments from Wilkin, trying to claim controversy when it just isn’t there. Straight from the Garry Schofield school of say something controversial at any opportunity.
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| Given how far offside Tonga were all match and the extras in the tackle to try slow us down I thought the ref was really very lenient on them.
They have a side that can improve, bit more thought/structure on top of the power/flair and they could be a real force in the game.
Whilst our tackling for the most part was outstanding our attack was limited, I honestly can't see us winning the final.
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| Thought Tonga were sometimes way offside too, but to be fair you play to the refs whistle.
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| Quote: Rhinoshaund III "Jon Wilkins talking out of his arris. Thats a loose carry every day in SL. Whitehead went for the ball yes, but he made enough of an effort for it to be a legitimate attempt at a tackle and its the ball carriers responsibility to keep hold of the ball.'"
You are exactly right.
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| i'm delighted that we're in the final but i'm raging about us being 20-0 ahead with 7 minutes remaining and ending up perhaps very fortunate not to have lost. i don't know the rules so i can't comment on whether it should have been a try or not, but going by what some of you (plus Wilkin) are saying, it wouldn't have been a massive surprise if the try had been given. it's inexcusable that we put ourselves in that position in the first place. i hope they don't but i'm worried that the Aussies are going to blow us apart again next week.
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| Tonga’s second try had a mile forward pass in the build up.
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| I thought we pushed Australia in the first game, just hoping we've improved a bit and they have an off day!
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