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| Quote Faxhali="Faxhali"In that i rest my case, 12 Chairmen get to decide who runs the RFL for all the clubs in all the leagues, Great democracy isn't it. One Voice One Vote, I think not. '" No, the SL chairmen voted for Mr Wood to run SL, not the RFL.
It was the SL clubs, the lower league clubs and the community game that voted for Mr Wood to run the RFL.
Quote FaxhaliGift £1.3 Million from central funding, So the chairmen of 12 clubs decide how much money the rest of the Rugby league clubs get is it whilst keeping a rather large slice of at least £14m a year. Seems like a fair deal.
'" No, do a bit of basic research, or at a very minimum read what you are responding to so you don’t make these idiotic statements.
Firstly there are 14 SL clubs not 12.
Secondly they amount they give them is SL clubs money, not central funding. The SL tv deal is split 16 ways, 1/16th goes to each SL club, 1/16th to the RFL for the community game and central costs, and 1/16th is given to the championships.
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| Smokey,
You seem happy with the current setup and very happy with Nigel Wood.
Fair enough, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it. That said, I genuinely find it hard to see how anyone holds that opinion, so help me out. Explain what you think the sport will look in, say, 4 years time, if we keep going as we are (in particular, attendances, sponsorship and overall playing talent). Seriously, I don't mean that facetiously, I'm genuinely interested in why you and others are happy with things as they are.
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| Quote RLBandit="RLBandit"Smokey,
You seem happy with the current setup and very happy with Nigel Wood.'" Not really, I just see the obvious idiocy of chopping and changing every couple of years in a constant state of panic. There are plenty I an unhappy with, The SC doesn’t work, the marketing of the game is appalling and sadly youth development isn’t what it should be. I just understand that making Nigel Wood a bogeyman and blaming him for everything isn’t going to actually solve those problems.
Quote RLBanditFair enough, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it. That said, I genuinely find it hard to see how anyone holds that opinion, so help me out. Explain what you think the sport will look in, say, 4 years time, if we keep going as we are (in particular, attendances, sponsorship and overall playing talent). Seriously, I don't mean that facetiously, I'm genuinely interested in why you and others are happy with things as they are.'" If we do what we are doing right now, in 4 years time we will be pretty much in the same place. If we change somethings, and carry on with doing what we are doing in a few other areas then we will be moving forward.
What you have to remember is that even if we get everything right, even if we do everything perfectly, it still takes time to take effect.
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| The reason for the chopping and changing though is that the decisions originally made have been shown up to be poor and changes have been needed. Knee Jerk decisions are being made (club call) to supposedly make our game unique but just end up seen as gimmicks that cheapen our game. Fundemental changes in our game are needed and the RFL needs to start listening to just the same people over and over again. Gimmicks are not needed. Real and honest evaluation of our game is needed before if it has any chance of growing. Wood is in charge and therefore has to take responsibility and deserves 90% of the critism he attracts but chairmen etc have got to have a look at themselves too and start making decisions based on strengthing the game and not just the bank balance.
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| To make major changes now, would be the knee-jerk decision, if it was a change back to P+R it would be a knee-jerk bad decision.
In the scheme of things, things like Clubcall are so minor as to be irrelevant. There isn’t anyone sat at home refusing to watch or be involved in our game because of clubcall.
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"Not really, I just see the obvious idiocy of chopping and changing every couple of years in a constant state of panic. There are plenty I an unhappy with, The SC doesn’t work, the marketing of the game is appalling and sadly youth development isn’t what it should be. I just understand that making Nigel Wood a bogeyman and blaming him for everything isn’t going to actually solve those problems.
If we do what we are doing right now, in 4 years time we will be pretty much in the same place. If we change somethings, and carry on with doing what we are doing in a few other areas then we will be moving forward.
What you have to remember is that even if we get everything right, even if we do everything perfectly, it still takes time to take effect.'"
Other than 'make it better', what are your specific thoughts on SC, marketing and youth dev. ?
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| Quote RLBandit="RLBandit"Other than 'make it better', what are your specific thoughts on SC, marketing and youth dev. ?'"
I know im pretty much repeating myself but as a minimum I would lower the cap by about 500k, and have 5 marquee spaces for players who can be paid whatever. There are many little things we can do to improve the marketing of the game, some pretty cheap things, Heritage rounds for instance, we have traditional games at easter, Leeds V Bradford, Saints V Wigan, Hull Derby, lets make these games ‘something’ alternate the home team every year and give the winner some little trophy as well as 3 points. Make that round about something whether it be ‘women in league’ like they have in the NRL, maybe just even celebrating an individual player who played for both clubs that kind of thin. It is pretty unforgivable that this round doesn’t sell out. We have these traditional fixtures at easter, we should do the same at the end of every season last game of every season should be against the same side, doesn’t need to be a derby, we make it into a big game.. Start every season with a double header of a couple of big games in a large regional stadium. Lets fill St James’ park with a bit of a jolly to start the season, do it on a stand alone weekend to get the neutrals in aswell. We need to build tent peg ‘event’ games throughout the season to keep visibility up.
Youth development needs a complete overhaul, from the very very bottom where we have good willing volunteers who unfortunately aren’t able to coach kids to the level they need to, all the way up to bringing them into SL sides.
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| So this last page is Smokey and the bandit with a big truck thrown in, god this is surreal.
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"I know im pretty much repeating myself but as a minimum I would lower the cap by about 500k, and have 5 marquee spaces for players who can be paid whatever. There are many little things we can do to improve the marketing of the game, some pretty cheap things, Heritage rounds for instance, we have traditional games at easter, Leeds V Bradford, Saints V Wigan, Hull Derby, lets make these games ‘something’ alternate the home team every year and give the winner some little trophy as well as 3 points. Make that round about something whether it be ‘women in league’ like they have in the NRL, maybe just even celebrating an individual player who played for both clubs that kind of thin. It is pretty unforgivable that this round doesn’t sell out. We have these traditional fixtures at easter, we should do the same at the end of every season last game of every season should be against the same side, doesn’t need to be a derby, we make it into a big game.. Start every season with a double header of a couple of big games in a large regional stadium. Lets fill St James’ park with a bit of a jolly to start the season, do it on a stand alone weekend to get the neutrals in aswell. We need to build tent peg ‘event’ games throughout the season to keep visibility up.
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You being serious? , have ' gimmick ' rounds? , you are Nigel wood
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| What we're dealing with here is a complete lack of respect for the law. 
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| We do need to find a few marquee events to expand the game and genrate increased investment.
Ive thought for a long time we should have a xmas day event.
Shift our internationals and start the next try nations then.
Beeb are showing an appetite for internationals.
England v Australia at a smaller northern ground on the BBC.
And.sky can take the majority of the series as now.
11am start would get good ratings.
Im amazed no sport has done this yet.
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