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| Quote: dirtbag83 " Sinfield ...... doesn't have the work rate to be an international 13. Doesn't carry it up enough'"
This made me laugh so much I had to look up some stats to calm myself down.
rlhttps://superleague.co.uk/statistics_player?season
Only the 7th highest number of carries in Superleague last season!
Given his role as a distributor, organiser and kicker I'd suggest this combined with 1900 metres gained from carries makes your post look pretty ridiculous.
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| Quote: Chief Stinkwort "This made me laugh so much I had to look up some stats to calm myself down.
rlhttps://superleague.co.uk/statistics_player?season
Only the 7th highest number of carries in Superleague last season!
Given his role as a distributor, organiser and kicker I'd suggest this combined with 1900 metres gained from carries makes your post look pretty ridiculous.'"
That's playing at 6 for Leeds. He's not what you'd call a hit-up machine
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| Quote: Dally "
The only player who has looked to be struggling at international level has, IMO, been Carvell.'"
He's played once? Made pretty good impact when he came on, 1 stupid offload. Fail to see how that's struggling. If Ellis is back he should just come straight in for Wilkin imo.
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| Seems as though Widdop comes on at 6, if Roby needs a break with Sinfield moving in to hooker. Sound about right?
Though Widdop is more than comfortable in 1 if needed.
Oh and after seeing the game again. How good was Graham's double pump pass to create the line break for JJB in the last try? He's a prop FFS. Excellent skill.
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| Quote: dirtbag83 "That's playing at 6 for Leeds. He's not what you'd call a hit-up machine'"
In 2010 he came in the top 30 carriers playing at 13, despite his kicking role. Perhaps you could point out how many of those who had more carries that year were 13s. I suspect you might not find one.
No he's not a 'hit-up machine' - Fortunately he's much much more than that... but the metres he makes suggests he does his share. To accuse him of not having a high enough work rate is simply ludicrous.
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| Quote: Gary26 "Prediction;
We will be slaughtered up our left side, Brisco, Yeaman, Rangi have no idea going forward and their defence is even worse.
Rangi only knows how to shimmy to his left and has no idea how to straighten up a defence, Yeaman has not broken the line once yet in this tournament, and Briscoe is frightened of taking on the white line.
Wilkin is ok in defence but is ineffectual going forward, so all of the above makes for a very weak left side.
Sinfied goes to sleep between sets and has no idea about 2nd phase footy because his attention span is elsewhere thinking about what he may possibly do next.
McKnob has no idea and is kidding himself if he thinks he can take this side on to better things, h is half selection is absolutely crap, we should be looking at Brough and Widdop in the halves. Sinfield should be a rotation player in the 9 or 13 position and Rangi should be running water for the Kiwis.'"
Spot on Gary.
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| Putting together a successful side at any level is about balance.
If you play Sinfield at 13, you're effectively playing with four half-backs in the side and one less big lump. Too many bosses, not enough workers and the team becomes imbalanced.
Those wanting Widdop in the starting line-up would have to sacrifice one of Sinfield, Chase or Tompkins to retain a degree of balance to the side, and only one of those has a high quality kicking game.
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| Do any of them have a high quality kicking game? They've kept it hidden so far...
Any stattos out there able to tell me how many tried have been conceeded down out left side conpared to our right side?
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| Quote: Code13 "Do any of them have a high quality kicking game? They've kept it hidden so far...'"
You reckon?
I'm struggling to think of too many tactical kicks that haven't found the floor or moved the defenders around.
Compared to the era of Sean Long et al, England's kicking game in this series has improved significantliy.
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| Quote: Rooster Booster "Oh and after seeing the game again. How good was Graham's double pump pass to create the line break for JJB in the last try? He's a prop FFS. Excellent skill.'"
Real quality that, no surprise it went pretty much un-noticed by the know-nowt commentators, likewise Wilkin's quick hands for Briscoe's try.
I get riled when you hear Eddie and Stevo raving over some simple plays then completely missing some genuine class. Not just those two instances, it happens all the time.
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| The modern day 13 is no longer an oversize halfback but more like a 3rd 2ndrower.
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| Quote: Andy Gilder "You reckon?
I'm struggling to think of too many tactical kicks that haven't found the floor or moved the defenders around.
Compared to the era of Sean Long et al, England's kicking game in this series has improved significantliy.'"
Has it, or is the pack just laying a better platform? When Sean Long or Paul Deacon were kicking for England/GB they were doing it from within their own 40.
There haven't been many occasions in this series where Sinfield has had to kick from his own half.
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| Quote: FearTheVee "Real quality that, no surprise it went pretty much un-noticed by the know-nowt commentators, likewise Wilkin's quick hands for Briscoe's try.
I get riled when you hear Eddie and Stevo raving over some simple plays then completely missing some genuine class. Not just those two instances, it happens all the time.'"
Got to agree. Every week Stevo creams himself over a flashy yet simple to execute pass. Yet a perfectly worked set play were 5 or 6 players all play their part to perfection often goes without a mention.
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| Roby - 48 tackles, wow!
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