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| Quote: UllFC "You are right that location is a big factor, luckily in Hull we moved to pretty much a centre spot between The Boulevard and Boothferry Park to suit both fanbases with good train and bus links. Moving to an out of town retail park hasn't been good for many teams in Football. Fans are hard to win back when they have got out of a habit, and for some being able to wander from the Pub, or meet their mate at a bus stop etc is part of the day out.'"
Indeed, as i say, Winwick road link to the motorway is fantastic (apart from the traffic) and having central a stones throw away as well is a massive help.
All the town centre parking as well.
One thing that does get forgotten about, is removing Bridge Foot aka spaghetti junction from the traffic equation, coming from the north it was virtually impossible to miss if you were heading to wilderspool. |
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quote="Ruune Rebellion"]No. That’s what you said you idiot which is why you are sexiest lol. Give up you sexiest Imbecile[/quote]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_54309.jpg |
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| Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "i appreciate your need to defend your club, like a third rate vastman, but defending them blindly isn't correct.
however, i'll deal with your rebuttles in my next post. cos i think this deserves its own.
*clears throat*
WHAT GRAND FINALS?????
i get reminded on a daily basis on here, on facebook, on twitter that we've never won a (sl) grand final, so bit of a weird flex.'"
I think you missed the irony of my post.  |
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quote="Ruune Rebellion"]No. That’s what you said you idiot which is why you are sexiest lol. Give up you sexiest Imbecile[/quote]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_54309.jpg |
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| Quote: shinymcshine "Whilst it was a grim night in February 2012, Salford only managed to attract 5424 to their first game at the new stadium, almost half the 10146 that attended their last game at The Willows - so never a good starting point.'"
Yeah I was there. It was about minus 5 IIRC.
And let's be honest half of those who turned uo at The Willows for the Catalans game did it to say I was there (exactly as they did at the Grand Final). I'm under no illusion we get small crowds.
BTW, you and Mr DogPlop are conveniently missing the point that we were forced out of the Willows by Super League who said the ground wasn't up to scratch but have since allowed Wakey and Cas to remain in their ultra modern abodes. Those s are every bit as much to blame for the shambles.
Edit: To clarify I'm referring to those s as in SL and not Wakey or Cas.  |
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| Quote: SaleSlim "Yeah I was there. It was about minus 5 IIRC.
And let's be honest half of those who turned uo at The Willows for the Catalans game did it to say I was there (exactly as they did at the Grand Final). I'm under no illusion we get small crowds.
BTW, you and Mr DogPlop are conveniently missing the point that we were forced out of the Willows by Super League who said the ground wasn't up to scratch but have since allowed Wakey and Cas to remain in their ultra modern abodes. Those s are every bit as much to blame for the shambles.
Edit: To clarify I'm referring to those s as in SL and not Wakey or Cas. ![]()
Hindsight is a wonderful thing and perhaps you should have held your ground (pun intended) and redeveloped the Willows. The 8k average attendance to support your move to the new ground was a club figure as I understand it and was always a big ask.
A triumvirate of you Cas and Wakey would be better placed to resist the mandate of new ground requirements if you worked that ticket together
Btw the previous poster saying that some local authorities should support stadiums like we Wire were lucky well yes we are but Salford's stadium is owned jointly by Salford City Council and came at a cost. The location although not as central as the Willows is there such a thing in Salford, wasn't a big surprise either I just think that you the supporters were victims of a combination of desperation and pipedreams
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| Quote: SaleSlim "Yeah I was there. It was about minus 5 IIRC.
And let's be honest half of those who turned uo at The Willows for the Catalans game did it to say I was there (exactly as they did at the Grand Final). I'm under no illusion we get small crowds.
BTW, you and Mr DogPlop are conveniently missing the point that we were forced out of the Willows by Super League who said the ground wasn't up to scratch but have since allowed Wakey and Cas to remain in their ultra modern abodes. Those s are every bit as much to blame for the shambles.
Edit: To clarify I'm referring to those s as in SL and not Wakey or Cas. ![]()
I miss the willows, it had character none of this breeze block plastic seat e they knock out these days 
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| Quote: SaleSlim "I think you missed the irony of my post. ![]()
There were so many inaccuracies it just blended in.
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Salford getting 8k?? There is more chance of Warrington winning a grand final
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quote="Ruune Rebellion"]No. That’s what you said you idiot which is why you are sexiest lol. Give up you sexiest Imbecile[/quote]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_54309.jpg |
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| Quote: Poky "Salford getting 8k?? There is more chance of Warrington winning a grand final'"
Jog on LeBron you snivelling little turd. |
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| Quote: SaleSlim "Oh I dunno.... weren't Wire averaging something like 4000 at Wilderspool before they moved to the shiny new HJ? It's amazing how winning multiple Grand Finals can add another 5-6000 to your fanbase. ![]()
5000 at wilderspool climbed fairly quickly to 11,000 over a few seasons at Halliwell Jones but it wasn't great success on the pitch..
Wire didn't get to a play off final until 2012 but had an 11,000 average crowd by 2005
It was the demographics, the rise and rise of soccer in Manchester........ and the move by Salford to a wasteland............against a fast growing Town with a top RL club as it's leading footy team.........
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| Quote: happyjack "Yet there are strong rumours around that they have signed one of your players, how do they afford him?'"
Because Warrington can still be paying his wages it just doesn't count against the cap anymore |
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| Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "i seem to recall thinking at the time, being disappointed that they didn't get the last season influx, lapsed fans coming back for one last look,'"
I agree entirely with this, that 10K attendance was for the "occasion" only
Only 3,458 turned up at the penultimate game before that at the willows/weaste...........only 5,424 at the opening of the new Barton ground
In their great 2019 successful run to the grand final improving attendances only managed to peak at 5,393.......
Then weren't the coach and best players easily picked off? |
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| Quote: shinymcshine "IIRC I don't recall much "luck & luxury" in Wires rough & rocky journey to a new stadium.'"
I don't either maybe you were being "wound up"  |
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| Quote: SaleSlim " We were forced out of the Willows by Super League who said the ground wasn't up to scratch but have since allowed Wakey and Cas to remain in their ultra modern abodes. Those s are every bit as much to blame for the shambles. ![]()
I don't remember Salford being forced out, only the fact that they got an opportunity for a new stadium that Cas and Wakey didn't get.
They understandably took that opportunity of their own free will AFAIK. Sadly it did not work out  It remained to be seen whether Wakey moving to Newmarket outside the city and on waste ground along the motorway could also have been a big mistake??
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quote="Ruune Rebellion"]No. That’s what you said you idiot which is why you are sexiest lol. Give up you sexiest Imbecile[/quote]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_54309.jpg |
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| Quote: Donnyman "I don't remember Salford being forced out, only the fact that they got an opportunity for a new stadium that Cas and Wakey didn't get.
They understandably took that opportunity of their own free will AFAIK. Sadly it did not work out ![]()
Well it shows that you know very little.then Donnyman. Do some research about why we moved and educate yourself.
Out of interest what was your previous username on here? You've obviously been around on RLFans longer than 2 years so always interested to know which previous alias/es you got banned under (like LeBron, Jean etc)
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| Quote: Donnyman "I don't remember Salford being forced out, only the fact that they got an opportunity for a new stadium that Cas and Wakey didn't get.
They understandably took that opportunity of their own free will AFAIK. Sadly it did not work out ![]()
There was pressure from the one-size-fits-all licensing criteria, which distorted priorities and to varying degrees and in different ways harmed several clubs. Those clubs still bear some of the responsibility but they did have the Sword of Damocles of losing their place in SL hanging over them - that isn’t how it turned out but it was very much how it was sold.
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