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| Quote GUBRATS="GUBRATS"You have a list of clauses set by the RFL that you can include in playing contracts , I don't think that's on the list'"
Can you provide the list for us all to see?
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| Quote GUBRATS="GUBRATS"You have a list of clauses set by the RFL that you can include in playing contracts , I don't think that's on the list'"
I spent many years in Sales. I had targets and if I hit these or overachieved, I was paid well and received bonus payments.....if I missed them, I would have received less pay and eventually would have been fired. The Leigh squad under performed in 2018 and not by just the 1 win either....they should have comfortably been 2nd and challenging for a spot in the MPG, but weren't and as a result, their contracts should be able to include "penalty" clauses for missing their target, because as much we love the sport, the sport is a business.
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| Quote BrisbaneRhino="BrisbaneRhino"You don't need a relegation clause - you have a clause stating that the contract would be void if you fail to reach the required league position. That is no more difficult to draft and enforce than a relegation clause.'"
Over the years, via my job, I have been privvy to hundreds of sporting contracts. Not just in rugby league, but also union and football and I have never seen that clause. Know why? Good luck getting someone to sign a contract that could be torn up if they dont hit a certain position in the league. Its the same with the relegation clause. These are extremely rare and are usually in the form of a cut in wages, not the contract torn up.
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| A couple of years ago, Fax players were subject to a 10% cut in their pay across the board whether regardless of their contract position. They were given the option of leaving if they didn't want to accept the cut. IIRC no-one left. The "carrot" was to reinstate the 10% based on making top 4, which Fax did, and all the players got their 10% back, albeit as an end of season bonus.
I'm sure that there must be ways and means of adding clauses into contracts that protect the club depending on outcomes.
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| Quote Sir Kevin Sinfield="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Can you provide the list for us all to see?'"
No , can you ?
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| Quote Call Me God="Call Me God":( I spent many years in Sales. I had targets and if I hit these or overachieved, I was paid well and received bonus payments.....if I missed them, I would have received less pay and eventually would have been fired. The Leigh squad under performed in 2018 and not by just the 1 win either....they should have comfortably been 2nd and challenging for a spot in the MPG, but weren't and as a result, their contracts should be able to include "penalty" clauses for missing their target, because as much we love the sport, the sport is a business.'"
As I put earlier as I understand it the parachute payment was only available if it was spent , I assume that would be in the form of Leigh committing to a certain level of salary cap , so if you don't reach that level on your contracts , you don't get the money
Catch 22
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| Quote GUBRATS="GUBRATS"No , can you ?'"
But, can you?
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| Lebron - its no different at all to a relegation clause. In terms of drafting it would take a half decent lawyer 10 minutes. Whether you could get players to sign it or not is another matter, but if any business knowingly incurred losses dependent on a very specific outcome (league position) and did not put into effect contracts which mitigated those potential outcomes, they deserve everything they get.
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| Will the Championship become SL2?
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| Quote Joff="Joff"But, can you?'"
He said no.What part of no do you not understand?
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| Quote BrisbaneRhino="BrisbaneRhino"Lebron - its no different at all to a relegation clause. In terms of drafting it would take a half decent lawyer 10 minutes. Whether you could get players to sign it or not is another matter, but if any business knowingly incurred losses dependent on a very specific outcome (league position) and did not put into effect contracts which mitigated those potential outcomes, they deserve everything they get.'"
As I said, I have seen hundreds of sporting contracts and not one has included this clause. Ive seen plenty of other weird and wonderful clauses though
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| Quote HXSparky="HXSparky"A couple of years ago, Fax players were subject to a 10% cut in their pay across the board whether regardless of their contract position. They were given the option of leaving if they didn't want to accept the cut. IIRC no-one left. The "carrot" was to reinstate the 10% based on making top 4, which Fax did, and all the players got their 10% back, albeit as an end of season bonus.
I'm sure that there must be ways and means of adding clauses into contracts that protect the club depending on outcomes.'"
Dane Manning did
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