was there something kicking off in the stand too? kept seeing loads of stewards in the area, could have been an emergency though?

It was yes. The same group of lads came into the Rose & Crown in the city centre in the afternoon and the landlady turned them away. One of them - the one that kicked off in the ground - headbutted the wall of the pub and shouted Leeds on the way out. Was clearly coked up to the eyeballs.

Common denominator - Leeds

Give over

I thought that rugby league fans were civilized. This would never happen in Perpignan, where rugby league fans' worst excesses are to throw only empty plastic bottles at cheating or incompetent referees and touch judges.

Not really fair to just blame Leeds fans here,I heard off my mate inside the ground what happened at Sam platts as he was there. 2 big groups of youngish lads from both sides were all singing in that big tent when a Leeds fan in fancy dress came right up towards the WIgan lot and started to shout abuse, he was knocked to the ground by a wigan fan and then both sets of fans charged at eachother, the fighting lasted at least a good minute and there was people escaping from the tent terrified. My mate follows United home and away and said this was possibly the worse trouble he had seen for years at both sports. Also heard the same 2 groups were fighting outside the oyster bar Earlier in the day.

The Rhino fan was probably first and foremast a Leeds United - they usually like to instigate trouble then claim innocence afterwards. They must have a combined IQ of 0.

Quote: 21-12 "Not really fair to just blame Leeds fans here,I heard off my mate inside the ground what happened at Sam platts as he was there. 2 big groups of youngish lads from both sides were all singing in that big tent when a Leeds fan in fancy dress came right up towards the WIgan lot and started to shout abuse, he was knocked to the ground by a wigan fan and then both sets of fans charged at eachother, the fighting lasted at least a good minute and there was people escaping from the tent terrified. My mate follows United home and away and said this was possibly the worse trouble he had seen for years at both sports. Also heard the same 2 groups were fighting outside the oyster bar Earlier in the day.'" Your mate can't have been supporting United long www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... ng-9937018 As bad as yesterday was, football is still 10 times worse. Though it is concerning how much football hooliganism is creeping in to RL

Quote: 21-12 "Not really fair to just blame Leeds fans here,I heard off my mate inside the ground what happened at Sam platts as he was there. 2 big groups of youngish lads from both sides were all singing in that big tent when a Leeds fan in fancy dress came right up towards the WIgan lot and started to shout abuse, he was knocked to the ground by a wigan fan and then both sets of fans charged at eachother, the fighting lasted at least a good minute and there was people escaping from the tent terrified. My mate follows United home and away and said this was possibly the worse trouble he had seen for years at both sports. Also heard the same 2 groups were fighting outside the oyster bar Earlier in the day.'" Your mate can't have been supporting United long www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... ng-9937018 As bad as yesterday was, football is still 10 times worse. Though it is concerning how much football hooliganism is creeping in to RL

Leeds do seem to be attracting the "naughty" fan elements from Football. Not just from the obvious club but from non league sides on the outskirts of the City too.

Well put. This tends to happen at the GF, I suspect due to the 6.00 pm ko and the relatively short travelling time compared to Wembley giving the bonehead element plenty of time to get really drunk.

it's not a new thing with Leeds, one of the main reasons away fans were moved into the south stand at ours was because fans of 2 certain clubs couldn't behave themselves in the Kilner bank stand a few years running, one of those was Leeds!

but it's boring just blaming 'football hooligans' everytime there is trouble at a RL game.every club in every sport has an element of idiots following them, it's just unfortunate that Leeds seem to have more than most in both football and RL.

however i also saw the 'Wigan ultra's' fighting with other Wigan fans and stewards and have seen countess incidents involving other clubs , so harsh to single out Leeds.

Basic people that live in Slums and act like Neanderthals.
Scum sums them up.

Let's not fall in to the easy "football fans" excuse. They're at a rugby game so they are, by extension, rugby fans.

However, it's not just a rugby / football problem, nor a just a Leeds problem (there must have been 25,00-30,000 Leeds fans who went to the game without incident). It's a societal problem that sees idiots attempt to get as wasted as they possibly can, and then act surprised when said idiots cause problems. I saw two incidents where stewards were called to remove idiots from the North Lower.

Every club has to deal with this section of society. By sheer weight of numbers, Leeds will have to deal with it more than other clubs.

What worries me is that unless something changes, the popular 6:00 KO for the Grand Final could easily be under threat if MUFC and GMP decide that they've had enough of dealing with violent drunks all day long. We have already seen an alcohol ban in the stadium bowl and we have alcohol cordons around the ground. What other options are there?

I'm going to take you up on this

This season for instance I've only missed 4 games all season and I've seen trouble twice, Grand Final and at Magic Weekend and it was only small amounts

At Wakefield this season a small amount of home fans spent majority goading me and my friends for a reaction, instead we just laughed and made friends with some other Trinity fans

Now to say Rhinos fans attract idiots maybe however there was no trouble at Wembley this season that I saw and that was a big game fixture

There were plenty of idiots about from both Leeds and Wigan yesterday. Lots of people who cannot handle their beer.

At about 1pm I was walking in the keys area with the wife and came across a very angry little Wigan fan who was adamant on squaring up to me wanting to fight and threatening to throw me into the water. Wasn't particularly bothered as there would have been only one winner he was that legless. But thankfully some other Wigan fans dragged him away calling him an embarrassment to their club. Bad apples from all clubs especially when they are allowed to drink all day and cannot handle it.