Do you really think it's that cut and dried.
With how the play offs have gone so far, anything could happen.

We've had blow outs, when they weren't expected and close games when they were not expected.
Wigan have come unstuck against big mobile forwards and both Catalan and Saints have superb packs.
Ok, Saints are badly missing a decent pair of half backs but, IF Catalan could win next week, they could cause another major upset
and all of this from 8th spot !

I don't think Catalans can win the Final, I think they'd be overawed by the occasion, but they can definitely win at Saints. They've proven before they can win there, Saints will have to play well to beat them.

If Saints do get to the final they stand just as much chance as Wigan or Warrington. It all depends who handles the occasion the best and plays the right kind of rugby. You need to play it relatively tight but can't just revert to 1 out rugby, you've still got to move the ball and, more than anything, you need to kick well.
All 3 of Wigan, Warrington and Saints can do that.

My money is on Warrington, I just thought I saw a determination in them in their last few games, the same kind of determination I saw at Leeds in 07/08.

You're probably right, although none of the top clubs have been consistent over the past number of weeks and although Wigan may be ok against Warrington, they have struggled in the forwards at various times this season.
The lack of consistency from all of the contenders makes both semi finals difficult to call.
Although Warrington have looked hungry, victory at Wigan will be a tough ask.

The bookise have it as a Wigan Evens) - Saints (11/4) final, with Wire 7/2 and Catalan 8/1, but there is a good chance of an upset in both semi's

Well this is one Saints fan who was glad we won the LLS and did not give it up after Walsh's injury, but we are relying on sport being a funny old game if we win the GF.

What is difficult to predict is have we found the right combinations and a new system, or was the Cas game a one off.

You can argue it both ways, we were touch and go in the games leading up to the Cas game. Good defensively, but shocking in attack. Then the attack came good for the Cas game.

or

Cas were way off the pace allowing us to attack with free reign. Even beating Catalan if we do will not prove this as people will say they are to tired to win.

So we won't know where we stand until the GF. It could be that Brown has come up with a style of play to cope without creative players, but I don't know at this point.

As an optimist I would hope the answer is yes and it just took some weeks to pull it all together. As a realist it's more likely that finishing top has given us the key to progress with less of a challenge.

Yes.

This saints team tonight have been crap. I can't think of a worse team that has lined up at old trafford for the grand final and it's a depressing reality check for the current quality of super league. It's half time and I already know they are going to win despite only been 6 points ahead and playing in sleep walk mode. That's how great super league is. Wigan and warrington have been the only 2 teams worth a damn in this entire shoddy series. Everyone else has been/is crap.

Do you ever just stop and consider how much rubbish you are talking?

Technically whoever wins out of Wigan/Warrington will be the worst team because they finished below Saints. I think if Warrington win it from 5th that will sum up Super League.

Got that wrong didn't you....

No, Saints were terrible to watch last night. He was spot on!

I'm sure the Super League medal will make them feel better about their performance

This was a cracking thread, well worth everyone's time.

Lets do it all again next year!!!

It wasn't pretty but after losing five finals we'll take an ugly win, ta very much.

No he didn't he said he knew Wigan were going to win. Nicely taken out of context Buckley, you should write for the Daily Mail.