you can't argue that two wrongs dont make a right, but then also argue BRadford should be punished wrongly because Widnes were.

Widnes werent denied promotion because of their administration, they were allowed to apply, did, failed, and then regrouped and got it right. And good on them for it.

I don't think you read my post, I didn't argue two wrongs dont make a right, I agreed with you.

I didn't say Widnes were wrongly punished with a points deduction, it was the correct decision and Widnes abided by it.

In Bradford's case it is also the correct decision, they should also abide by it.

It's not rocket surgery.

Why is it the right decision? What did Steve O'connor do to deserve a points deduction?

Rocket 'surgery'???

It is the right decision because it is in the operational rules.

Steve O'Connor didn't do anything to deserve a points deduction, but he did know there was one imposed/pending when he took over the club, he had the choice to walk away from it if he wasn't happy with it but he stuck by the club.

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Smokey, I don't think you personally are able to distinguish between the business and the owner.

In any business a prospective new owner should be aware of everything that is going on within that business, if you are not happy then don't buy in.

The business was penalised,the prospective owner knew this but still bought in, is it right for him to then turn round and complain about something he already knew about before investing?

I dont think knowing about it is really a justification for it. It doesnt mean it is a good or right decision simply because it was known about.

As you say, if they know about it they could not invest. But why dont we want them to invest? Why are we making a struggling club LESS attractive?

As with Widnes, it matters not who owned Bulls, yesterday, today or tomorrow.

The club were punished under their membership of the Rugby Football League, not Khan, not Green, the club.

As much as you don't like FA, it's a fact.

If your assertion was correct, Bulls wouldn't be appealing the punishment, they would be legally challenging the RFLs right to impose such a sanction, which they aren't.

the reason they arent legally challenging the decision of the RFL is that any club which legally challenges the RFL immediately surrenders its membership of the RFL and its right and ability to participate in RFL competitions.

Ah, so they do know the rules then?

We should have the clearest rules possible on this, just like football...if you go into admin, you get relegated/x number of points deducted immediately.

And just like football, it matters not which person owns the club at any given point in time.

But we don’t and rightly so. The rules regarding football are as idiotic as the rules you suggest.

And if you did know the rules you would know that the members of the RFL are the holding companies of the clubs, not ‘the clubs’ as you refer to them because that concept does not exist in any tangible form.

So Bradford, as a member of the organisation you describe, are author and party to the rules they are subject to.

They are in a club of entities that has written its own rules...but now they don't want to play by the rules.

Clubs get into difficulties, yes, but in Bulls case it's been an insidious attempt to be competitive beyond their means and they have done it twice! And been clandestinely aided by the governing body.

If any club deserves punitive action, it's Bulls.

Well fortunately, the member of the organisation now you refer to as 'bradford' are a different entity to the one which got into difficulties.

By all means punish the Bradford who got in to financial difficulties. In fact be draconian with them. Punish that entity and the people behind it, that entity however no longer plays RL, is no longer a member of the RFL and those behind it are no longer under the RFL jurisdiction, but deduct them a million points for all it matters.

We know they are different entity if only for the fact if they were the same entity you wouldnt have anything to punish them for. Not even ridiculous hyperbole.

The organisation they are a member of is the Rugby Football League.