you really don't like to give a wigan player credit do you? i am sure on more than one occasion you have tried to argue this with differen't people. If he was a wire player you would agree there is no one who comes close to him in superleague.

Just a question was you one of the wire supporters saying brett hodgson is a better player than sam earlier on in the season? I really dont know if you did or not but you sure act like one.

Well done....I think you're even confusing yourself.

'I'm acting like one' .....How does that work then? So by not agreeing that Sam Tomkins is the best player in the world I 'dont like giving a wigan player any credit'.... i can see how that works.

I was merely pointing out that Rangi chase won MOS last season... not Sam Tomkins.

To answer your stupid question.....of course i didn't say Hodgson was better than Tomkins..... Tomkins was without a doubt the best fullback in SL last season.

I hope that has helped clear up your assumptions and guess work.

i clearly understood what i was trying to say.. anyhow i said earlier on in the season as tomkins showed on more than one occasion he is a better fullback, i know there was a good few wire's who was trying to say hodgson is better full back than tomkins. and it works by you just laughing at some ones opinion who believes he was the best player in the world even if you and me dont agree. well alot of english supporters dont believe rangi is good enough for england but tomkins is so go figure how he won the mos... it was just a question no need to get over protective about it. however i didn't say tomkins was the best player in the world so no need for exagerations to prove this i didn't even say he was the best full back this season brett stewart was.

now you're just making things up.

sorry yeah thats my mistake mixing it up with the laughing face on the wigan rumours board at the hull fc fan over the mark o'meley situation... ... but i am sure i have seen you put a downer over tomkins before.

Tony Archer referee of the year??

Deary me today......

Some posters on here are deluded - the top sides in SL would not be able to compete with the top sides in the NRL. The physical fitness, speed and power these sides possess would be far too much for any SL side add that the superior technical ability and you only have one possible outcome over a season - embarrassment.

Billy Slater plays in the best league in the world and performs to a high standard on a consistent basis - Tomkins plays in an inferior league at a significantly lesser standard, his performances towards the back enf of the season were average at best. Why anyone think he is a better player than Billy Slater!! The same can be said when comparing to Roby to Smith - simply different quality levels.

It is no surprise all the awards went to the NRL players; it is the best league with the best players.

Can't argue with that. Sadly the NRL is streets ahead of our game in every aspect.

What has the standard your team plays at got to do with how well you played, it is how the individual plays & the level that they achive in thier perfomance in the year, I would argue Rangi Chase performed heroics in a poor side & it was him that got Cas two or even three places higher than they would have. You can even argue that players in the lower divisions have played a greater part in thier sides season & carried thier teams whole season on thier efforts. Being a succsess is more than finishing on top it is about contibuting to the game & your team. But I would not expect the worshipers of everything Australian to agree.

It's not about worshipping everything Australian but the fact is the NRL is head and shoulders above superleague whichever way you look at it.

Not really, just on on the dark side of the hill

That is just an idiotic statement. Sam Tomkins is the best player in Super League by far.

if he was the best player in SL by far, then why didn't his fellow players vote him player of the season?

Chase made his name against the poorer sides - his impact was significantly diminished when Cas came up against the better sides - the fact they didn't even make the play offs says much. Are you seriously suggesting a player from the NL could be crown world player of the year because his impact on his side was greater than a far superior player's impact on his?

How is Jharal Yow Yeh considered a rookie? He played the entire 2010 season I'm sure and debuted in 2009.