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Championship is boring.

We've won the Grand Final, been to blackpool. Had our win in the challenge cup at an SL side.

Now I'm waiting for my team to lose its attendances, go into administration and die slowly and the RFL will just look the other way and be glad to see us lose the proud history of our club.

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Quote: HatedAndAdored "Yeh well bully for you, unfortunately for us that was the path to SL that the RFL set out for us. Either way, the outcome is the same and we deserved that moment of elation just as any other fan would if they were put in that position.'"


Except the result isn't the same, because you'd have never got to SL on the back of a NR Cup win in previous seasons. You've been decidedly average for 3 seasons and under P&R you wouldn't have deserved a place in the top flight. But you can qualify now by not winning a damn thing, so I suppose you did win something at least.

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its amazing some people stilll dont get it. Im too tired of this to bother explaining it again.

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Quote: vikingsmurf "its amazing some people stilll dont get it. Im too tired of this to bother explaining it again.'"


Don't get what?

That the RFL are hand picking teams for Super League based on criteria that have little to not to do with sport? I think I've figured that one...

Or something else?

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Quote: Michael_Ward "Don't get what?

That the RFL are hand picking teams for Super League based on criteria that have little to not to do with sport? I think I've figured that one...

Or something else?'"


They are also hand picking reasons to keep teams in, under the 2008 criteria Crusaders would be well and truly below Wakefield and Halifax. Come 2015 the RFL will simply put who ever they want in SL and make the rules up to fit. Already it's been said that Toulouse going back to the French league won't effect there application for 2015. All very convenient now that they won't after compete with the rest of us riff raff to win the GF or the NRC.

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Quote: Michael_Ward "Don't get what?

That the RFL are hand picking teams for Super League based on criteria that have little to not to do with sport? I think I've figured that one...

Or something else?'"


It's easy. Pick yourselves up a Steve O'Connor and by-pass the queue. Good on Widnes i say but that is THE ONLY reason they're in.

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Quote: littlerich "It's easy. Pick yourselves up a Steve O'Connor and by-pass the queue. Good on Widnes i say but that is THE ONLY reason they're in.'"


No they rent a shiny stadium aswell, that also helps.

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Quote: littlerich "It's easy. Pick yourselves up a Steve O'Connor and by-pass the queue. Good on Widnes i say but that is THE ONLY reason they're in.'"


I thought it was because they got themselves in the clique! icon_wink.gif

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Quote: deeHell "I thought it was because they got themselves in the clique!
I'm not saying they've simply sat back and done nothing. They have worked at every aspect of what the RFL wanted them to do. They couldn't have done it without O'Connors backing. That's they key element any RL club needs. You won't get the rewards by winning trophies anymore. Like it or not, that's the game now.

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Quote: littlerich "It's easy. Pick yourselves up a Steve O'Connor and by-pass the queue. Good on Widnes i say but that is THE ONLY reason they're in.'"


I dont think thats entirely true. There is the small matter of the largest crowds in the league by some distance, the club facilities, other factors. I don't doubt O Connor has been great for us, but he's not the single reason we're on our way up. More one of them. One team was definitely coming up, can you think of any other team more suited right now?

We can waffle about championship winners all we want to, but there is the fact that were we all playing under old rules people's squads would look very different. We wouldn't have this salary cap either you'd feel, it's a tad on the short side and doesn't benefit the biggest clubs in any way.

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Quote: Michael_Ward "You might want to take a closer look at the process. It's an arbitrary process, not a fair process.

Fairness doesn't even enter in to the equation. Wakefield won't be disadvantaged, because they'll get back to SL if the RFL want them. If they don't, someone else will be given the chance.

The results of the process can be debated, but the way it's done gives the RFL the power to chose whoever they want without any true justification for their reasons behind it.'"

The RFL can, do, and have to justify their decision. You may not necessarily agree with it, or with the reasons behind it. But they still do it.

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Quote: Michael_Ward "There's still enough interest and excitement to keep me going watching Leigh at Championship level.

However, comparing the period between 1999 and 2004, during which time Leigh were pushing for lower league honours, there was a pathway to the top flight that revolved around winning a competition. Every season there was something very meaningful and exciting to play for.

The current scenario doesn't excite me though

I disagree...after winning the semi-final at Leigh, we were overwhelming favourites to win the GF so, although it was a historic day, it did in the end, feel like a bit of an anti-climax.
On the other hand, THAT Thursday morning at the end of March when we got into Super League was THE most Nerve-wracking time of my life.

Quote: Michael_Ward "It's easy. Pick yourselves up a Steve O'Connor and by-pass the queue. Good on Widnes i say but that is THE ONLY reason they're in.'"


If Halifax had better crowds, a better stadium, and a sounder business plan, then they would be in too!

Quote: Michael_Ward "No they rent a shiny stadium aswell, that also helps.'"


Halton Borough Council have given the club a 99 year lease on the stadium, but considering that site has been the clubs home for more 100 years then, I don't think we'll have any problems keeping hold of it.

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Quote: Widneslatic "I disagree...after winning the semi-final at Leigh, we were overwhelming favourites to win the GF so, although it was a historic day, it did in the end, feel like a bit of an anti-climax.
On the other hand, THAT Thursday morning at the end of March when we got into Super League was THE most Nerve-wracking time of my life.'"


And it was a nervous day for me when I was waiting to see if the RFL were happy to allow Leigh in to SL for 2005.

But after that decision we had to then go on and actually win a final. On the field. With Rugby League players. Remember them? Remember when it mattered what those players could do?

In 3 seasons time Widnes could find themselves outside super league again. And it won't have mattered a jot what the Widnes players achieve over the next 3 years. Because it's not really sport any more.

There are two distinct competitions, and movement between them is arbitrary and unrelated to sport. Clubs are given licences based on whatever criteria is motivating the RFL at that present time. Of course, the RFL will sugar coat the criteria for public consumption.

But when the RFL are willing to do things such as excluding a stadium that is a couple of months from completion from their scoring system, then its plain to me that the criteria are being manipulated to suit.

And if the Crusaders still manage to get a licence this time then it shows that despite the protestations of the RFL, the system is neither fair nor level.

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Quote: Widneslatic "If Halifax had better crowds, a better stadium, and a sounder business plan, then they would be in too!'"


We'll strive to beat Harlequins attendances - hasn't done their SL status any harm icon_wink.gif
We'll borrow the business plan used by Cusaders - twice! Didn't do their SL status any harm icon_wink.gif
We'll borrow Castleford's Wheldon Road Colliseum blueprints - hasn't done their SL status any harm icon_wink.gif

I see your point. Follow the example set by other incumbents and we'll be reet icon_thumb.gif

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