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[b:1swa1vwo]Change is inevitable ...except from a vending machine![/b:1swa1vwo] [quote="BillyRhino":1swa1vwo]So in best IA mode ..<.Possibley World Class, could be the greatest thing since sliced bread....am personally very excited, and confidently expect him to prove my predictions are bang on target.... Alternatively he could be rubbish> IA mode off. :wink:[/quote:1swa1vwo]:33791.jpg



Quote: Bull Mania "Was going to say that. We seem to have this impression that the NRL has 17 benji Marshall's in each squad. There are some very average and poor players in the NRL too. Mark flanagan joined Wests, usually a sub and there were all these calls for him to get an England jersey!! He didn't really do much apart from tackle and keep hold of the ball. He was solid and people wanted him in an international jersey!! Sometimes we belittle our competition and players too much.'"


Spot on and as most Leeds fans will tell you, Burgess has made steady progress in the side and was really starting to look the part early season. I don't think he has as much 'natural' talent as Sam but he is still a good player and if he carries on improving he will go well in the NRL and may end up in an England jersey in a couple of seasons.

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Quote: roughyedspud "having made the world 13 before he went to the NRL.....erm....yeah he probably was


and spot on bull mania'"


World 13?? Compare Ellis pre NRL to what he is now.

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Quote: Bull Mania "Was going to say that. We seem to have this impression that the NRL has 17 benji Marshall's in each squad. There are some very average and poor players in the NRL too. Mark flanagan joined Wests, usually a sub and there were all these calls for him to get an England jersey!! He didn't really do much apart from tackle and keep hold of the ball. He was solid and people wanted him in an international jersey!! Sometimes we belittle our competition and players too much.'"


Average and poor relative to NRL standards, but not to SL. Look at how many NRL nobodies are playing in SL. That's what belittles the SL and players brought through here. Not what someone might 'think'.

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Quote: Hartster "World 13?? Compare Ellis pre NRL to what he is now.'"

Yes, he was much better attacking player before he went to the NRL (as was Morley before him)

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Quote: Hartster "World 13?? Compare Ellis pre NRL to what he is now.'"


yeah he was selected in the world 13 a few times before he went to the NRL...meaning he was considered 1 of the top 2 2nd rowers in the world....


he also had a "flick pass" BEFORE he went to australia

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Quote: Bull Mania "Was going to say that. We seem to have this impression that the NRL has 17 benji Marshall's in each squad. There are some very average and poor players in the NRL too. Mark flanagan joined Wests, usually a sub and there were all these calls for him to get an England jersey!! He didn't really do much apart from tackle and keep hold of the ball. He was solid and people wanted him in an international jersey!! Sometimes we belittle our competition and players too much.'"



How many games has he played this season.
Started with a good solid enthusiasm often off the bench.

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Quote: roughyedspud "yeah he was selected in the world 13 a few times before he went to the NRL...meaning he was considered 1 of the top 2 2nd rowers in the world....


he also had a "flick pass" BEFORE he went to australia'"


What is this World 13?

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Quote: Hartster "What is this World 13?'"


A team made up of the best players in the world at the 'Golden Boot' awards.

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Quote: Hartster "What is this World 13?'"



en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RLIF_Awards
Quote: Hartster "What is this World 13?'"



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Quote: roughyedspud "yeah he was selected in the world 13 a few times before he went to the NRL...meaning he was considered 1 of the top 2 2nd rowers in the world....


he also had a "flick pass" BEFORE he went to australia'"



When the "World 13" are picked, the Judges are from across both Leagues, some players from England are always going to be picked regardless.

Ellis is a fine choice, others less so.

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i'd love to know who you think was selected when they should'nt have been?

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Quote: Hartster "Average and poor relative to NRL standards, but not to SL. Look at how many NRL nobodies are playing in SL. That's what belittles the SL and players brought through here. Not what someone might 'think'.'"


have a look at how many NRL "superstars" come over here to SL and fail miserably, or those that have looked average over here, then gone back to starring in the NRL again.

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If he works hard he will do well. There are poor players in SL and the NRL. It's all about how much effort they are willing to put in no matter where they play.

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Quote: roughyedspud "i'd love to know who you think was selected when they should'nt have been?'"


That list you posted is incomplete and does not list each year, there have been many that have been politically selected to have players from "The Big Three" make up the team.
It is mainly a UK driven concept like the WCC, why is there not a comprehensive site that lists such a prestigeous set of awards? (other than a half assed attempt on Wikipedia)

Laffranchi
Inglis as a 5/8th
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Others are not show.
Look at the one where there is a complete list of nominees and you have Burrows and Pryce. Please....

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Quote: Ashulster "If he works hard he will do well. There are poor players in SL and the NRL. It's all about how much effort they are willing to put in no matter where they play.'"
He's a very strong lad, I wouldn't doubt his physical capability to do it.

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