I'm with you on both points

Why would webster come off rw?

TBH im trying to get my head around it but from looking at it he now falls in the pre feb 08 group I think.

Surely the pre 08 has been abolished?

It would be clearer if the RFL just showed each clubs and stated how many places they have left rather than trying to explain it like this. It only confuses people and is about as clear as mud!

Additionally, why don't the common sense thing and abolish the quota/non-federated categories, rename it overseas list and just cap it at five. Simples to me.

Nope

seems to me that hull kr have discovered a loophole the rfl missed and are now simply using it,and the rfl are going with it as they are too late to do anything else.you cant rely have a dig at hkr about it in a results driven envoirement as they are simply trying to do the best they can in the short term.
the rfl really need to adress this asap though as having so many overseas players in super league is not conducive to the development of our indigenous young players.as i have stated on here before the rfl need to give some financial incentative to clubs using/developing home grown players, as well as capping it to 5 overseas players regardless of kolpak/loopholes etc.

Because it would then be confusing with, for instance, French players. They would either then count on the overseas list, which isn't helpful, or would be an anamoly in that they are from overseas yet don't count on the overseas list. The non-fed trained category is exactly what it says, players who weren't trained in the RLEF.


Absolutely
I don't see why the RFL can't publish on the SL website a list of the homegrown, fed trained and non-fed trained and quota players in each squad. Then everybody knows.
Additionally I don't see why individual clubs cant also do this on their own website.

Because individual clubs have far more important things to worry about; ie trying to win superleague. I couldn't care what nationality the players are. Winning SL is all that matters.

No they haven't discovered a loophole.
The overseas quota runs in conjunction with the non-fed trained rules (introduced in 200icon_cool.gif
For instance just using Leeds.

There are currently 7 "foreign" players in Leeds squad
Absolutely


Obviously that is harder to do than to say. They tried to do it in 2008 with the Non-Fed trained rules but the Simon Finnigan case (IIRC) forced their hard to have exemptions. However those exemptions will steadily retire/move back to the NRL and we will eventually have a hard and fast limit... hopefully.

Quote: PHIPPS "Because individual clubs have far more important things to worry about; ie trying to win superleague. I couldn't care what nationality the players are. Winning SL is all that matters.'" No you're right clubs are far too busy to actually have a website to inform their customers... oh wait www.bradfordbulls.co.uk/ www.castigers.com/ www.catalansdragons.com/ www.crusadersrfl.com/ www.quins.co.uk/ www.giantsrl.com/ www.hullfc.com/ www.hullkr.co.uk/ www.leedsrugby.com/ www.reds.co.uk/ www.saintsrlfc.com/ www.wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/ www.warringtonwolves.com/ www.wiganwarriors.com/

Quote: PHIPPS "Because individual clubs have far more important things to worry about; ie trying to win superleague. I couldn't care what nationality the players are. Winning SL is all that matters.'" No you're right clubs are far too busy to actually have a website to inform their customers... oh wait www.bradfordbulls.co.uk/ www.castigers.com/ www.catalansdragons.com/ www.crusadersrfl.com/ www.quins.co.uk/ www.giantsrl.com/ www.hullfc.com/ www.hullkr.co.uk/ www.leedsrugby.com/ www.reds.co.uk/ www.saintsrlfc.com/ www.wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/ www.warringtonwolves.com/ www.wiganwarriors.com/

Rovers have no players according to their website though!!!!

Well it's a novel way of avoiding the overseas quota and salary cap rules

All these rules that may have legal ramifications in the future could all be put to bed if the RFL were to just state that X amount of players in each teams 17 must be home grown. As I have posted before you could have as many Aussies as you like but with only say 5 being allowed to play each week you are unlikely to sign 10 overseas stars. Link this in with an incentive for producing home grown players it could work so that teams only have 6 or 7 each anyway.

If home grown players were to be exempt from the cap then this money would probably just go to signing more Aussies so I don't think this should be the case but there does need to be something there to encourage teams.