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| Matt, I think the difference is the publicity and who it's from. For example if I had the chance to see Frankie Boyle and I was easily offended (which i'm not) I wouldn't go. The same for any stand up or edgey comic. If someone who was homosexual and a RL fan followed him on twitter, he'd get offended without any ind of warning.
For me Kevin Brown is an idiot for this. An apology is necessary.
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| Quote: Andy Gilder "What about them?
Or are you just not comfortable admitting to your own prejudices so you're trying to turn the argument on to others?
So - if Kevin Brown had made a reference "in jest" to s, Pakis or darkies would that have been acceptable?'"
Of course it wouldn't, but that's because they're malicious names - watch Graham Norton, Alan Carr and the likes on telly and they take great pride in reclaiming the 'poof' tag. There are different levels to these sorts of things IMHO, and Brown's comments might as well go alongside jokes about Irish, Englishmen & Scotsmen et al as far as I'm concerned.
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| Any of you ever been in a RL changing room?
Politically correct, it ain't. Raw and uncompromising it is, with little room for sensitivity.
Ill-advised to publish that comment where the world can read it but give it a break, it's just a bit of raw humour from a young lad. No need to hang, draw and quarter him. Actually quite an inventive analogy.
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| I have, but this isn't in an RL changing room, kids will read this on twitter.
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| The only people that would take offence to Kevin Browns comments are the same sort of people that write to their local paper week in week out in a town near you complaining that the cane should be brought back into schools, how Tescos have increased the price of tea bags by 5p a packet and how premier league soccer players are all bad role models for their kids.
It's a throwaway comment made by a nobody rugby league player (I had to google him to find out who he played for) that no rational person would even give a second thought to.
People should stop whinging and sooking about stuff that really isn't even worth thinking about.
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| Haven't people been prosecuted for things that they say on Twitter?
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| Can't wait to see what Brown has to say about Monaghan signing for Warrington, I must admit!
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| Quote: DemonUK "Haven't people been prosecuted for things that they say on Twitter?'"
I never was
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| I think the likes of Graham Norton and Alan Carr can say "poof" about themselves as they are gay. It doesn't give other people the right to say it. Same how one of my black friends uses the word "". Just because he is black and uses it doesn't give me the right?
I don't go shouting this about on these forums because I know the narrow minded nature of a handful of people but I'm gay and I'm offended by the long neck idiot.
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| Quote: jonny the leyther "I have, but this isn't in an RL changing room, kids will read this on twitter.'"
Yes, because kids won't hear anything like this at school, or on the street.
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| Quote: Sheffieldliam "I think the likes of Graham Norton and Alan Carr can say "poof" about themselves as they are gay. It doesn't give other people the right to say it. Same how one of my black friends uses the word "lovely". Just because he is black and uses it doesn't give me the right?
I don't go shouting this about on these forums because I know the narrow minded nature of a handful of people but I'm gay and I'm offended by the long neck idiot.'"
I totally disagree.
Some gay blokes would object to the word 'poof' whether it was made by another gay bloke or not.
Some black guys would object to the word you used (which has been censored) whether it was made by JayZ or a white bloke.
Some English people object to the word 'pom'
Some Americans don't like being called 'Yanks'
Maybe he doesnt like you calling him a 'long necked idiot'???
But I'm sure he wont go whimpering off and start a discussion on an internet forum about it.
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| Quote: Cronus "Yes, because kids won't hear anything like this at school, or on the street.'"
So because homophobic attitudes are prevalent on the street, they are acceptable in RL?
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "So because homophobic attitudes are prevalent on the street, they are acceptable in RL?'"
I think what he meant was it doesnt matter where you go in this world you will always see and/or hear comments that don't fit in with what you find acceptable.
I'm not sure what planet you came from but RL players don't sit around in the sheds at half time or at training sessions (or indeed nights out) drinking milk and eating ambrosia whilst discussing stamp collecting and what to bring to the local churches bring and buy fete you know.
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| I wouldn't be bothered if he says it with friends etc in private but the fact he's posted it on a personal twitter account what can be accessed by anyone is foolish and he shouldn't have done it.
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| So are we saying the RFL should be consistent in their punishments for homophobic comments or not?
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