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Quote: Saddened! "It'll be interesting to see who plays 7 with Eastmond and McGuire both out.

Burrow? Long? Myler? It's not a good list.'"

It won't be Long, that's for sure

Burrow has never really let himself down internationally and at this stage I would expect him to be in front of Myler in the pecking order

Is Eastmond definitely out? - he is struggling for the Grand Final but he has 3 weeks after that till the first 4 Nations match

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We really need a 7 who has a good kicking game. That rules out Burrow and for me Myler has never lived up to his hype. Whenever i have seen him he seems to be another decent support halfback with not much else. Sinfield at 6? He has an ok kicking game. I would go Brough 7 and tompkins 6 which would give us a good kicking game but Brough always gets overlooked. I think McN will go with Tompkins and Brown at halves then if Eastmond is injured.

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See, the real problem is not always the coach, in this case I have little faith in him but...


Look at the suggested teams on this forum. Its the same faces, or more importantly, some players are automatically dismissed because they dont play for the right club.

Our wings are weak you say? Who says? Just because Leeds, Saints or Wigan have poor options on the wing doesnt mean all the other clubs do. - What about the likes of Cudjoe or Lawrence - oh sorry, they arent austrailian and dont play for XYZ so they must be crap.

s? Again XYZ all have aussie/kiwi centres so GB musnt have any good ones. Or maybe, just maybe they dont play for the chosen clubs...

Halfbacks? There are more halfbacks of English origin than I can remember these days.

Somone has said Brown would get murdered over there. Why? He has been the guiding force behind the Giants for two seasons, not Hodgson - he has just added some real class at times but Kev Brown has been the real reason for our success.

Robinson, the only thing he is guilty of is trying too hard sometimes, but he has been superb at hooker this season and has the defence to bring down the big men too. Oh and he has a cracking kicking game

Maybe, just maybe if some people took of their blinkers and realised that the player pool at international level is a much, much different place than it was just 5 years ago, even 2 years ago then the better.

Maybe McNamara isnt the coach for the job, but so far he at least seems to be not letting the petty club prejudices of too many fans cloud his judgement for the train on squad.

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Quote: Code13 "What about the likes of Cudjoe or Lawrence - oh sorry, they arent austrailian and dont play for XYZ so they must be crap'"

I would be happy with both of these two in the squad

Cudjoe can cover full back and wing and has had an excellent season and peaked for the play offs

As for Lawrence - probably not quite enough pace for the wing but he is very solid defensively and he wouldn't be a bad option in centres for me

As for Robinson - it’s a funny one as I would rather have seen Lunt play the year at hooker for the Giants, I thought he was on his way to becoming a World Class number 9. With Brown playing Robinson at 9 and Lunt in the second row, he may have harmed both their international chances (this is not a criticism of Brown as he has to do what he feels is right for Huddersfield)

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Quote: Code13 "See, the real problem is not always the coach, in this case I have little faith in him but...


Look at the suggested teams on this forum. Its the same faces, or more importantly, some players are automatically dismissed because they dont play for the right club.

Our wings are weak you say? Who says? Just because Leeds, Saints or Wigan have poor options on the wing doesnt mean all the other clubs do. - What about the likes of Cudjoe or Lawrence - oh sorry, they arent austrailian and dont play for XYZ so they must be crap.

centres? Again XYZ all have aussie/kiwi centres so GB musnt have any good ones. Or maybe, just maybe they dont play for the chosen clubs...

Halfbacks? There are more halfbacks of English origin than I can remember these days.

Somone has said Brown would get murdered over there. Why? He has been the guiding force behind the Giants for two seasons, not Hodgson - he has just added some real class at times but Kev Brown has been the real reason for our success.

Robinson, the only thing he is guilty of is trying too hard sometimes, but he has been superb at hooker this season and has the defence to bring down the big men too. Oh and he has a cracking kicking game

Maybe, just maybe if some people took of their blinkers and realised that the player pool at international level is a much, much different place than it was just 5 years ago, even 2 years ago then the better.

Maybe McNamara isnt the coach for the job, but so far he at least seems to be not letting the petty club prejudices of too many fans cloud his judgement for the train on squad.'"


Agree with a lot there. Roby and Robinson would be a good hooking rotation i think. There are very good halves in SL outside the usual suspects (who have not excelled at international level). A mixture of Roby, Robbo, Tompkins, Brough and Brown would give us good options at international level. Just because certain halfbacks play for top 4 teams dont mean they are the best options come tri nations time.

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No it won't be. Australia have many injuries as well, despite the fact that they have more depth the replacements are not the quality of those they will be replacing; no matter how afraid everyone will be of them anyway.

Also, Brian Smith will be helping England out in this tournament, he is a fantastic coach with an excellent reputation (despite the lack of a grand final victory).

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Id like to see something like

Widdop
T.Briscoe
Gleeson
Atkins
Cudjoe
Tomkins
Brough
Graham
Sinfield
Morley
Ellis
Burgess
O'Loughlin

Roby
J.Tomkins
Fielden
Westwood

We need a good kicker and Brough is the best imo. Burgess to play the 80 and moving up to prop when needed.

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Australia will be without Greg Inglis, Jamie Lyon, Michael Jennings, Timana Tahu, who all would've been considered at centre. Darren Lockyer, Johnathan Thurston, Scott Prince are all in doubt for the halves. England could be facing a backline mostly featuring players they've never played against before. You're not the only team with injuries.

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Has Brough actually declared himself for England again or is he still Scottish?

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Scottish last we heard

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Quote: Andy Gilder "Has Brough actually declared himself for England again or is he still Scottish?'"
he declared himself Scottish again not long back

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Quote: Code13 "See, the real problem is not always the coach, in this case I have little faith in him but...


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I'd be happy to see Cudjoe on the wing for England (maybe even potential fullback in longer term), has always impressed me, not sure about Lawrence yet as he hasn't stood out as much as Cudjoe. I also think Brown could be a very useful option playing at centre, offering a bit of creativity in that position. I'm not convinced Robinson is really international class though, tries hard, but I wouldn't have him in my squad.

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Quote: Superbowl Scott "Id like to see something like

Widdop
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He plays standoff in the NSW Cup, I'm not convinced that should put him ahead of any of the other choices for fullback in the England squad.

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If we have such GOOD players eligible for England and fighting for positions in the national team then why do clubs insist on signing overseas players?

Or is it, as I and loads of others have figured out, we just don't have the players or systems in place to create this scenario where there is a fight for places.

The "truth" AGAIN will come out in the 4 nations but still the relevant heads will be stuck up their collective backsides spouting forth that everything is lovely and working well!

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