Fact is that 90% of the NRL players that sign for SL would still be 1st teamers in the NRL that season if they had stayed. Either that shows up the reliance on the NRL to have past it old timers in squads or you are talking Bull0x as usual!

If they could afford him Menzies would still be in Manly's 17, Fitzgibbon and O'Meley would still be starters at the Roosters and Tronc would still be a starter at the Cowboys next year.

I know, the Aussie coaches didn't recognize their obvious ability which is why they came here. Once proven they had many opportunities to go back to the NRL to play at that level. If they were reserve grade then they wouldn't have played international as there are plenty of decent NZ players about.



Why do you feel the need to insult him? Calling him a b@stard was totally unnecessary for a start, and yes I do. At the time he was sought after by clubs from both the NRL and SL, because he was one of the best props in the competition.

You're an idiot.


I don't talk about the game with idiots because you will never be able to talk sense to an idiot.


Same reason I dont talk to JB....idiot.

No I think you mean an idiot will never be able to talk sense, that's why you talk complete $hite most of the time.

Vainikolo was first team for canberra, we turned him from a ok winger/centre to best player in the world within 2 seasons, just shows what moving to a good league can do.

there was an article on jason demetriou.

basically he said hed given up on making it as a pro player in australia, and decided to go on holiday to england.

few years down the track and he is captain of wakey




please guys SL is the place for failed NRL coaches and players

Like Crocker who was coming to SL, failed to get in and walked straight back into Origin and probably a Kangaroo shirt? Yeh over the hill retirees!

And Crocker has been this year.


Good name to toss up!

That in all of the games elite players that took part in Origin Crocker was the only average one.



See....this is why you are an idiot.

Cobblers. The Qld pack is largely ordinary, starting front row aside. Conversely, the NSW back division is very poor, Hayne aside.

Tronc's OK but nothing special. Again, if SL clubs concentrated on quality rather than quantity, Tronc would not be on anyone's shopping list.

Just to add fuel to the flames here, I saw Wigan's backline against Sts this weekend featured no less than 5 overseas players, of whom not a single one would be rated as top notch in the NRL. Most would get a game but not much more than that.

ha ha, thought you weren't entering in conversation with me anymore!

Nice opt out answer, everyone was good EXCEPT Crocker

So apart from Civoneceva, Smith and Price...the Australian front row, everyone else is crap.

Myles....long time Origin player and corridor messer? Thaiday?

Ben Hannant is crap?