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| I think he made a few strange desisions, but tbf to him I have seen games he has contolled reasonably well, its his firts year in SL ( i think) and he should be allowed to make mistakes if he learns from them in the future, just as young players would.
Perhaps not the man for the job last night though with all that went on.
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| Omfg how the hell has this numpty landed himself in Super League??? He only started reffing NL1 last season and was an utter imbecile back then...
It's sm gone mad. He shouldn't even be allowed to ref amateur level games.
Worst ref ever.
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| Quote: bUsTiNyAbALLs "Omfg how the hell has this numpty landed himself in Super League??? He only started reffing NL1 last season and was an utter imbecile back then...
It's sm gone mad. He shouldn't even be allowed to ref amateur level games.
Worst ref ever.'"
I remember him reffing a Game at Doncaster against Halifax about 4 years or so ago. He's been about since then
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| I didn't think he was great tonight, however I have been impressed with him the last few times I have seen him. He is definitely getting much much better and as good as many others. Sometimes his signals and the fact that his English isn't brilliant doesn't help us to understand what he has given, but he is ok.
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| Quote: RENDELL "Just an observation about a man who I consider to be one of the worse refs I have ever seen. ( I can go back to 1976 ).
Last week in Hull he time and again called players back who where off side. He rarely penalised the player(s), as the player would stop in his tracks and try not interfer with play though he clearly was.
He did this again tonight when a Saints player was off side. This was on Wakefields last play and resulted in Danny Brough kicking out on the full. This I believe was because the offside player was interfering with play and caused DB to rush his kick.
The resulting scrum lead to a try for Saints from a forward pass. '"
You really do have no understanding of the laws of the game or the role of a referee, do you?
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| Quote: tb "You really do have no understanding of the laws of the game or the role of a referee, do you?'"
Fyi yes I do. The Saints player was 2 yards offside at the play the ball and was advancing towards DB. DB was shaping to kick but the Saints player is in his way. He has to check and re-adjust himself resulting in poor kick.
Now watch it again and see if you see it that way. If you don't, tell me why. If you can't tell me why then I will take it you have no understanding.
Having viewed your comments over the years on here, you are great at little one liners but not so good at constructive comments. Says alot about journalists now a days.
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| Quote: bUsTiNyAbALLs "Omfg how the hell has this numpty landed himself in Super League??? He only started reffing NL1 last season and was an utter imbecile back then...
It's sm gone mad. He shouldn't even be allowed to ref amateur level games.
Worst ref ever.'"
So you didn't see him refereeing in the world cup in 2000 then?
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| oooh get her
so he had an off day
I have seen hime ref a few times, going back a few years and he is a decent ref, controls a game well enough and lets the game play itself
Ever thought that maybe he too let the emotion of last night get to him a bit at all?
Or is it just the nature of RL fans that they absolutely have to whine like little girls with scraped knees on ever single subject?
As has been said, want to do better? Get off your backsides and have a go. When you have failed miserably you can come back and whine about how the courses were good enough etc etc.
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| Its quite common for refs to struggle when they first come into SL. Some ofthe better ones (and I'm not naming names as it would only sidetrack the debate) were poor in their first season. The pace of the game is so much quicker they inevitably struggle to get into the right position to make a call.
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| Quote: RENDELL "Fyi yes I do. The Saints player was 2 yards offside at the play the ball and was advancing towards DB. DB was shaping to kick but the Saints player is in his way. He has to check and re-adjust himself resulting in poor kick.
Now watch it again and see if you see it that way. If you don't, tell me why. If you can't tell me why then I will take it you have no understanding.
Having viewed your comments over the years on here, you are great at little one liners but not so good at constructive comments. Says alot about journalists now a days.'"
When the ball is kicked out on the full it doesn't result in a scrum.
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| Quote: "When the ball is kicked out on the full it doesn't result in a scrum.'" In general play and not on the 5th what does it result in?
Ive seen Alibert ref 2 Quins games this year and to be honest have enjoyed the games. He lets the game flow. Having said that at times he can be a bit weak and his hand signals need to improve.
Having done a bit of reffing the most difficult decisions for me were when the ball comes lose when there are players on the floor. You are unsighted. To give a penalty, which is what sky were suggesting last night, when you haven't seen an offence cannot be right, no matter what you may be thinking. Additionally the ball carrier has a duty to protect the ball.
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| Quote: RENDELL "Fyi yes I do. '"
Unfortunately, this thread suggests otherwise. You've launched a diatribe against M Alibert's alleged incompetence based on
1) he reffed the offside [i in exactly the same way[/i as every other ref in the world, talking to players, telling them they're offside and warning them not to get involved in play
2) your [i personal opinion[/i that a player who wasn't interfering with play, was - based solely on the evidence that Danny Brough kicked out on the full. I've watched Danny play many times over the years: when he' good, he's brilliant; but he is a mercurial player more than capable of kicking out on the full on his own.
My comment stands.
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| Quote: wire-quin " To give a penalty, which is what sky were suggesting last night'"
This is a massive part of the problem, Eddie and Stevo, and Phil increasingly are becoming more and more inane in their commentary, and are more and more often adopting the bias of commentating as a fan of one side or another rather than just calling the game.
I hate to do this but at least for the most part the ocker commentators call the game, if the ref makes a bad call, they say its a bad call AND THEN MOVE ON, they dont harp back to it time and time again
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| Quote: macs fan "When the ball is kicked out on the full it doesn't result in a scrum.'"
Really!
I could be wrong, but I bet it can!
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| Quote: tb "You really do have no understanding of the laws of the game or the role of a referee, do you?'"
I've often thought the same about you, now you have confirmed my suspicion.
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