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Good thread this.

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Quote: headhunter "Wakefield fans are strange'"
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I don’t know why you would post that. It’s an idiotic statement.

It’s worth your of discussion because, if he’s correct, I’m sure lots of chairmen will be concerned.

I would guess that he’s not right and that if he is, a new deal will be done.

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He's not even a Wakefield fan.

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Quote: Willzay "He's not even a Wakefield fan.'"


Even if he is, his point is valid.

Doesn’t matter which club he supports.

Or she, of course.

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Super League clubs should be able to afford to pay for the travel of 1 away game per year to Toronto, just as they should be able to afford to find an academy and a reserve grade.

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Quote: headhunter "Wakefield fans are strange'"


He's (yet another) troll. Just for a change.....

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If SL clubs put on their thinking caps, they'd start talking to Air Transat about a special travel package for the club given that Air Transat might be making money on flying over away fans.

Just a thought.

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Willzay completely wrong, i.am a WAKEY fan & have been for more than 40yrs ! I also have a season ticket as do all my family !
I am not a troll, but I do ask questions, some people do not like !
The fact is that travel for 19 plus staff for several days is quite a cost, teams already travel to catalan in one day
Because of cost !
Go to google and toronto & view written agreement !

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Quote: TrinTrin "Willzay completely wrong, i.am a WAKEY fan & have been for more than 40yrs ! I also have a season ticket as do all my family !
I am not a troll, but I do ask questions, some people do not like !
The fact is that travel for 19 plus staff for several days is quite a cost, teams already travel to catalan in one day
Because of cost !
Go to google and toronto & view written agreement !'"

You are correct that it will cost clubs, but who actually cares? Fans of top football clubs spend thousands travelling around Europe following their clubs, two trips a year is not much to ask if you can’t afford it that’s tough it’s what life is about, we have to stop this catering for fans who can’t afford to pay & focus on the ones that can & will pay, sorry if sounds cruel but so is life. I personally am excited about a trip to Toronto & if health permitting I will be off. If clubs can’t or the RFL organise block bookings & offset the cost by selling travel to fans then we are lost anyway.

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If a full time professional super league club can't afford 1 trip per season to Toronto then man this competition has some serious problems.

How about you look at Catalan and Toulouse travel costs over the season and compare that to 1 single trip to Toronto.

The English based teams have it pretty damn nice compared to what the French clubs have to pay.

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: TrinTrin "I do think MC won"t be that pleased with that issue.'"

Then he should gather up his toys and f**k off and play elsewhere, freeing up £1,800,000 of perpetually wasted central funding that is spent each year on survival rather than growth!

The reality is that whether Toronto are good for the game or not, they are at least giving it a go and apparently doing it with a smile on their faces......meanwhile we are inundated with threads bemoaning expansion, generally started by fans of tin pot pit village clubs, teetering on the financial brink and watched by an ageing and shrinking fan base.

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Carter can use that spare 750k he’s got burning a hole in his pocket.

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Quote: kobashi "
The English based teams have it pretty damn nice compared to what the French clubs have to pay.'"


then let the french teams organize their own league, if they can find enough quality teams

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: fbstackafelt "then let the french teams organize their own league,'"
They have their own leagues...
Quote: fbstackafelt " if they can find enough quality teams'"
..oh the Irony. English RL can't even support 12 top flight sides with the likes of Widnes and Salford on the edge of the cliff and potentially being replaced by a French and Canadian side......and you reckon the french have an issue with quality players, when sides in the UK are rammed with average Aussies?

The attitude of the NIMBY brigade in RL is it's biggest threat. Adverse to change, unwilling to travel and distrusting of johnny foreigner.....Sir Oswald would be so proud icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Call Me God "Then he should gather up his toys and f**k off and play elsewhere, freeing up £1,800,000 of perpetually wasted central funding that is spent each year on survival rather than growth!

The reality is that whether Toronto are good for the game or not, they are at least giving it a go and apparently doing it with a smile on their faces......meanwhile we are inundated with threads bemoaning expansion, generally started by fans of tin pot pit village clubs, teetering on the financial brink and watched by an ageing and shrinking fan base.'"


Unfair ' having a pop at lower teams fans who haven't even posted on this thread , doesn't help the cause Gutters

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