Also the standard of refereeing in this country is diabolical.

Tierney kicks out at the try scorer for Hull's second and third tries.

Calm down Derek. The missed tackles and lack of discipline from your boys is far worse then any standard of refereeing.

In his defence he's not a SL standard player.

Derek?

Oh it's not made a difference, we've been pathetic. Doesn't help when the referee misses a Post route to Houghton and sin-bins Farrell for calling him out on it.

Derek, the last bloke to blame the ref when his side were getting totally tonked. Farrell needs to calm his . Doesn't help the cause 1 bit going down to 12 24 0 down. Hull's attitude has been superb on the back of back to back defeats. Houghton has been superb. Wigan's inquest needs to begin with the missed tackles.

You're right, he's crap. Not that I have seen that sort of play in C1 or 2.

It was clearly an observation, not an attempt to deflect blame.

We've been awful for most of the season, but then we've been playing Academy players and Reserves for most of the season too.

Case in point - the ref has missed #12 committing an offence that he'll be banned for when the panel reviews the game and gives a penalty to Hull.

Just really, really poor.

Again though, YOU CAN'T take the law into your own hands. Isa is typical of that. A grade A gobe. If wigan can sort their act out I think they can get back into it, I get you've had mass injuries but didn't you last year then you won the grand final ? Today's attitude from wigan has contributed both to the lopsided scoreboard and penalty count.

I'm sure Wane will work his magic on the officials at half time. Wigan look look a beaten side these days. Only so much there promising young talent can do week in, week out.
Can't see an easy route to the top 4 this year for the warriors.

Top 4?! We're hoping we can scrape 8th.

Nah the top 4 has gone. We'll be lucky to make the top 8 at this rate.

I wouldn't ever discard Wigan. Too much talent. From a neutrals perspective,I think some of your senior players are letting the side down more so and your young guns have too much to do on the back of it.

Wigan on a team warning yet 2 further penalties conceded and no action taken.