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Quote: jimlav "Looks like a big year for the youngsters at Hull FC. Beyond 1-17 (and possibly included in it) looks weak. Not many I, as an outside, would place a whole amount of faith in. looks like a team that will struggle to get into the top 8.'"


There's certainly a lot of faith being put in youth. On the whole though I think we should be much improved on last year. Some of the players I'm most looking forward to watching are outside the 17. Naughton, Lancaster, Logan, Abdull, Tyson Wilson have all had a taste of Superleague and should kick on. Watch out for Jansin Turgut aswell.

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I'd love for Hull to really emerge as a top side because it would be great for the game but looking at that squad it looks a way off tbh. The kids are good players but the quality to play around them looks to be lacking.

Hope I'm wrong.

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Quote: NickyKiss "I'd love for Hull to really emerge as a top side because it would be great for the game but looking at that squad it looks a way off tbh. The kids are good players but the quality to play around them looks to be lacking.

Hope I'm wrong.'"


I have no delusions of us winning trophies or anything. We are capable of winning the CC with a good draw but certainly not Superleague. I just want to see the club progress. We are trying to follow the Wigan model of promoting youth to the first team and supplementing with quality. It will take a few years to bear fruit but I just want to see us going the right way, and whilst we are lacking in some areas there are also some very good players there.

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Salford squad to date: (Although it's been mentioned that another Prop may be coming in) in no particular order.

1. Locke
2. Ben-Jones-Bishop
3. Sau
4. Mason Caton-Brown
5. Greg Johnson
6. Chase
7. Dobson
8. D. Griffin
9. Liam Hood
10. Lama Tasi
11. Harrison Hansen
12. Weller Hauraki
13. Gareth Hock
14. Theo Fages
15. Carl Forster
16. Jordan Walne
17. Tony Puletua
18. Adrian Morley
19. Jason Walton
20. Andrew Dixon
21. Brad England
22. Niall Evalds
23. Jon Ford
24. Matty Gee
25. Kieran Gill
26. George Griffin
27. Josh Griffin
28. Matt Groat
29. Tommy Lee
30. Luke Menzies
31. Adam Walne

Average age is just under 25 and is offset by Morley's significant years. With the promotion of youngsters (Eight of that squad has come through the Academy) and the purchase of a number of other younger players gives the team a different dynamic than the season gone. The team has serious pace and a very big pack. How well we do this season coming will be down to how Chase and Dobson click, and whether Hood steps up from the lower leagues or Fages makes that spot his own. No recognised 'Name' at hooker is still a worry, although I'd like to see Chase moved there with fages and Dobson at HB if we struggle.

As for prospects, well if we can build on the performances that we made at the back of this season gone who knows? We could equally be pretty mediocre, and that's where Salford's problem lies. Being able to be consistent.

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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club. Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you. "Rugby League is a simple game played by simple people. Rugby Union is a complex game played by wankers." L.Daley 2005:



Quote: jimlav "Looks like a big year for the youngsters at Hull FC. Beyond 1-17 (and possibly included in it) looks weak. Not many I, as an outside, would place a whole amount of faith in. looks like a team that will struggle to get into the top 8.'"


Got 6 players who will come in if any of the 1-17 are injured who have SL or NRL experience so the experience is there...some of the youngsters gained experience last season and will be better for it.We matched teams for metres made last season but was bloody clueless in the opposing 20,we now have the Hals to give us the options....we should make the 8

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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club. Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you. "Rugby League is a simple game played by simple people. Rugby Union is a complex game played by wankers." L.Daley 2005:



Quote: NickyKiss "I'd love for Hull to really emerge as a top side because it would be great for the game but looking at that squad it looks a way off tbh. The kids are good players but the quality to play around them looks to be lacking.

Hope I'm wrong.'"



The squad isn't that way off but it isn't going to happen overnight.The kids are all academy internationals and have tasted S/L action.......never did you any harm putting your kids in and how will you fare nxt season as your Quality to play rd your kids is disappearing season in season out.

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Quote: TheButcher "Salford squad to date

Some exciting players in the backs and should go better than this year. Props are lacking for me, and as you've mentioned there's not a proper hooker in there.

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Quote: TheButcher " Salford.'"


Where's Liam Hood?

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Quote: Charlie Sheen "Where's Liam Hood?'"


At number 9 on the list.

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Not sure what your point is.

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Quote: fc baldy "The squad isn't that way off but it isn't going to happen overnight.The kids are all academy internationals and have tasted S/L action.......never did you any harm putting your kids in and how will you fare nxt season as your Quality to play rd your kids is disappearing season in season out.'"


We'll still have 6 internationals from today around them as well as the likes of McIlorum and Bowen and other guys who've played in Grand Finals, CC finals and a WCC.

It's not a case of measuring us against you though. Your a big club and a successful Hull will make the game stronger but it seems a while off at the moment. We had a spell around 2005 where our squad was chocked full of promising youngsters but the quality around them was poor and it harmed their development. There's a raft of top kids on that list but they need bedding in slowly and patience to be shown. It's a high pressure environment at Hull and people are desperate for success now not tomorrow.

I just hope they cope and if they do maybe they could achieve success quicker then expected.

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[quote="FlexWheeler":8f22o6ue]The extent of his coaching is ''BASH EM, JUST F*CKING BASH EM. HE'S LOW ON CONFIDENCE, BASH HIM'' He's a limited coach that won't last long term.[/quote:8f22o6ue] .... [quote="rubber duckie":8f22o6ue]That would make Wigan strong favourites then. With Ratchford at FB and Patton with Cronk in the halves, I think we'll do very well without Sam.[/quote:8f22o6ue]:



Quote: fc baldy "The squad isn't that way off but it isn't going to happen overnight.The kids are all academy internationals and have tasted S/L action.......never did you any harm putting your kids in and how will you fare nxt season as your Quality to play rd your kids is disappearing season in season out.'"



Not sure what you are getting at with this. Wigan have lost Green and Goulding from last years squad. Goulding wasn't getting a game (Sarginson and Gelling the two centres with Thornley injured almost the entire season) and Green has Williams, Hampshire and Powell all vying to replace him.

Even still, its not as if Wigan only had 1 or 2 good years with youth. Haven't they won the u20 competition something silly like 6 out of 7 years? Given this what reason would you give to suggest, as you do, quality is disappearing year on year from Wigans youth players.

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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club. Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you. "Rugby League is a simple game played by simple people. Rugby Union is a complex game played by wankers." L.Daley 2005:



Quote: NickyKiss "We'll still have 6 internationals from today around them as well as the likes of McIlorum and Bowen and other guys who've played in Grand Finals, CC finals and a WCC.

It's not a case of measuring us against you though. Your a big club and a successful Hull will make the game stronger but it seems a while off at the moment. We had a spell around 2005 where our squad was chocked full of promising youngsters but the quality around them was poor and it harmed their development. There's a raft of top kids on that list but they need bedding in slowly and patience to be shown. It's a high pressure environment at Hull and people are desperate for success now not tomorrow.

I just hope they cope and if they do maybe they could achieve success quicker then expected.'"


We have brought in Minichello and Pryce who will provide more experience to go with Ellis,Yeaman and Houghton who are all seasoned pros and quality players.We also have a proper H/b pairing for the 1st time in ages that should settle us down a lot,as for the kids...we have brought them in,let them have a taste then take them out..a good example being Logan,made his debut against you in that battering was taken out and brought back at the end and held his own and scored 2 good tries v Leeds,Bowden has improved massively,Hadley is progressing nicely,Abdull didn't look out of place at all until he got took out by Hauraki cheaply,Lancaster scored for fun and we have
Tyson Wilson brothers and Jansin Turget in the wings so we should be ok.Some fans want success today but I can see where we are going and this is a outstanding crop of youngsters who will serve us well.

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