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Quote: Nickelback_Fan "seeing as super league is a boring closed shop and nothing of excitement for the bottom 5 clubs why dont they introduce some disincentives for finisheing bottom?

how about the players of the bottom club get fined a months wages or something?'"


This from a nickleback fan

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Quote: Birstalltiger "How do you borring it is very compentive and next year both celtic and Salford will bring in better player making it the best League for years just look ast Cas Hullkr and Catalan both had time settle in now major players in the league.'"


Dont humour him , apparently he is a footy fan wind up merchant from Fax

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Quote: Starbug "Dont humour him , apparently he is a footy fan wind up merchant from Fax'"


starbug! itts so nice for you to come and pollute my threads with sinister garbage once more!

if you dont like me or my threads, dont click those that list the author as 'nickleback_fan'

easier than spending your saturdays stressed out!

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'when my life is over, the thing which will have given me greatest pride is that I was first to plunge into the sea, swimming freely underwater without any connection to the terrestrial world' Yves Le Prieur, the real inventor of the aqualung:



How about, if the NL side meet the criteria for SL at the end of any season, they play off with the bottom SL club during the franchise period. If the same two side meet twice in the three seasons, the NL side automatically replace them.

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Quote: rover49 "How about, if the NL side meet the criteria for SL at the end of any season, they play off with the bottom SL club during the franchise period. If the same two side meet twice in the three seasons, the NL side automatically replace them.'"


Sounds a good shout!

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an alternative could be for the bottom team to play the top team in the championship (providing that team has its boxes ticked), the winner gets to play in super league

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Quote: Nickelback_Fan "seeing as super league is a boring closed shop and nothing of excitement for the bottom 5 clubs'"


Not true

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Quote: Starbug "Dont humour him , apparently he is a footy fan wind up merchant from Fax'"


Thanks for reminding me – and indeed thanks for Bluesox4evaaaa etc etc etc for posting here and reminding me – that not only is he an HTFC troll, but a serially banned one as well.

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i'd love there to be a play off game between the bottom of SL and winner of the championship.....


9 times out of 10 (or more realistically 19-20) the SL would win but at least the door would be open just alittle bit.....and it would be a massive,massive game

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We have had one and a half years without relegation and people are thinking of alternatives.... geees.

It will be quality if we can get 14 teams all competing for the top 8!

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Forget the boredom at the bottom of SL. What’s really missing is excitement at the top of the Championship. As a fan, it’s pretty hard to get too excited about your club playing to be granted the right to make a PowerPoint presentation. The Championship is an entertaining league in its own right but all UK sports fans like to dream and this lack of real aspiration is behind the dramatic fall in Championship crowds this last two years.

Was relegation really that bad? To me it seemed to deliver the right result. When teams struggled in SL, they’d drop out and with the parachute payment keep hold of some key players, develop a few younger ones in their year in the second echelon, have a good, winning season, bounce back and continue in SL much as they were before (Hudds, Salford).

If the relegated side stayed down it was probably because of more deep-rooted problems within the club requiring fundamental changes (eg Fax)

The only time that promoted sides that failed to be competitive were the ones that went up beyond their means (in fact, Leigh was the only one). Many times clubs did rather well (Hull KR, Widnes)

We were always told that the problem was that the gulf between the two divisions was too wide and the time to prepare too short yet this could have been solved by changing the timings of the two division’s seasons and, heaven forfend, rewarding the clubs at the top of the second tier a little more than they were.

That said, despite the intractability of this ‘problem’ the only club to overstretch itself was Leigh. This was immediately leapt upon by expansionistas as being sufficient justification for the resumption of the strangling of all clubs below SL and the continued propping up of various artifices.

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They should be made to run around Old Trafford naked prior to the Grand Final kicking off.

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Quote: waterfield's finest "Forget the boredom at the bottom of SL. What’s really missing is excitement at the top of the Championship. As a fan, it’s pretty hard to get too excited about your club playing to be granted the right to make a PowerPoint presentation. The Championship is an entertaining league in its own right but all UK sports fans like to dream and this lack of real aspiration is behind the dramatic fall in Championship crowds this last two years.

Was relegation really that bad? To me it seemed to deliver the right result. When teams struggled in SL, they’d drop out and with the parachute payment keep hold of some key players, develop a few younger ones in their year in the second echelon, have a good, winning season, bounce back and continue in SL much as they were before (Hudds, Salford).

If the relegated side stayed down it was probably because of more deep-rooted problems within the club requiring fundamental changes (eg Fax)

The only time that promoted sides that failed to be competitive were the ones that went up beyond their means (in fact, Leigh was the only one). Many times clubs did rather well (Hull KR, Widnes)

We were always told that the problem was that the gulf between the two divisions was too wide and the time to prepare too short yet this could have been solved by changing the timings of the two division’s seasons and, heaven forfend, rewarding the clubs at the top of the second tier a little more than they were.

That said, despite the intractability of this ‘problem’ the only club to overstretch itself was Leigh. This was immediately leapt upon by expansionistas as being sufficient justification for the resumption of the strangling of all clubs below SL and the continued propping up of various artifices.'"



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Great post, but now be prepared to have both your choice of headgear and dog ridiculed.

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Largely agree with that post, WF, though personally I'm finding the Championship to be a hugely exciting league (to the extent that two of the past three weeks I've been to a 'neutral' Champ game in addition to Leigh games), though I'd actually back a return of 'first past the post' with an end-of-season Premiership.

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I did mention it's exciting in its own right, but then think what a mouth-watering second half of the season we'd have in prospect in the Championship if there was a more meaningful prize on offer. The quality is pretty good and deserves better crowds than it gets. Having nothing to play for lies at the root of that and I don't think it's sustainable to put on such good quality with nothing to play for. After the next franchise cycle when Widnes get the nod I fear the worst.

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