no, most a run by successful businessmen, businessmen that have already learned that throwing money at a problem doesnt work,

some dont spend the cap now, how have they managed to stop themselves throwing money away? how do they possess the control not to spend more than they could afford even though the RFL allow them to?

and why are the other clubs different?

you seem to act as if clubs would immediately run themselves into the ground if there wasnt an arbitrary limit on wages, one that has no relation to their financial status, somehow stopping them?



we produce them, its what we should have been doing for a long time, and if we cant produce them, we go out and find them

and your argument applies in exactly the same way to a salary capped world, why bother producing youngsters, they will only leave when they get good because you cant afford to keep them under an arbitrary cap



all clubs can afford to spend as much as they can afford on wages, which is what they should be spending on wages, what they can afford.

this is a much more sensible approach than someone deciding on a number 10 years ago and pretending its financially sound for all clubs to be spending this amount even though it bares no relation to their financial status,

i have not berated any policy, its disingenuous at best for you to say i have, or even come close to saying so,

im more than comfortable in trusting hetherington and caddick to implement and work such a policy in a non-SC world as much as an SC world,

and again, the cap doesnt ensure clubs dont go to the wall, plenty of clubs have done in the last ten years, it also has no link to a clubs financial status

so then if Clubs were run responsibly an SC clearly isnt needed is it?



ahh, so your impression of Simon Moran is a good enough reason for a salary cap then?

that is correct, but pay say Brian O'driscoll more than he is paid in RU, and he plays League, and all of a sudden GB have another good player in the squad

they are there, believe me,

we have also lost Smith, Walker, Myler, Farrell, all players who were british SL players, all replaced by overseas players




it isnt, the gap isnt huge when it comes to wages, we can and do compete, certainly not between the GP and SL


so on the basis that the leeds players who get paid more have won less, picking an arbitrary amount 10 years ago and allowing clubs to only spend that on wages whether the can afford it or not is a good idea?

So, Smokey, in short, you want rid of the SC because you know that your club's future will be secure thanks to your multi-millionaire backer?

You could have just written that and saved all that wristwork for other pursuits.

last time there wasnt a SC leeds almost went broke trying to pay the same wages as wigan

the price of course was the club was sold to an owner whose main interest was union and now union pollutes the hallowed headingly turf

If Rugby League clubs were willing to pay every player a wage that Rugby Union offers them then most teams would be bankrupt anyway.

And all of the players could get "the wage that they deserve" if they went to other teams, no doubt.

.............and Wigan almost followed suit.

no, i trust my club, along with almost all others in SL, would be secure because they are run well,

i am sure that should we allow clubs to spend what they can afford, or we point them in the direction of doing what we need to do to be a successful sport, that they are very able to do so,

i think a flat cap----with very minor exceptions----doesnt go anyway to acheiving that

union also pumps millions in to the parent company,

dont you worry, Leeds Carnegie more than pay their way

Changed your tune there sunshine

Are Chelsea or Man city well run ?

Just on a small point though dally, your cap over there is higher (by quite a lot) and includes scope for marquee players, our's doesn't.

You've also not got the same competition sport wise in that your sports are more regionally orientated (e.g. RL in Queensland and NSW) and no serious mega bucks competitor like football (or soccer as you'll no doubt refer to it). I'd be surprised if Australia would still be producing a seeming production line of Inglis, Hayne, Folau etc if football was a big sport in Aus

IF Caddick and / or Hetherington wanted out, there would be no shortage of people wanting to buy the club, in whatever state it was in ....