https://youtu.be/9JLASzADsaI I'm a Sam burgess fan, but he's not even close. England made a bad decision in picking him for the wales game....not his fault.

https://youtu.be/9JLASzADsaI I'm a Sam burgess fan, but he's not even close. England made a bad decision in picking him for the wales game....not his fault.

I haven't said his selection was responsible for the loss against Wales, why do you make things up?

You also say that SB is strong at the breakdown, that shows that you are making it up as you go along, he was hopeless at the breakdown as well as kicking, which according to you are two of the basics. I also notice that you didn't mention his paucity of any positional sense of where he was supposed to stand, especially at lineouts, which should be a pre-requisite for any international centre. You never did answer my question asking if Mike Ford is 'anti-league' because he agrees with BOD and D'arcy that SB is not even a centre at club-level because he moved him to flanker and won't play him at centre again. I ask you again: is Mike Ford anti-league for thinking SB isn't a centre? You want there to be an agenda against Burgess because you want RL to be that important, but unfortunately for you it isn't.

Stop talking to yourself you strange strange bore

Foran is out for anyone interested in rugby league! Surely an easy romp for England now?

At home and NZ without Johnson and Foran, I would have England down as favourites, not sure about easy, they are still ranked number 1 in the world.

Series will be a cracker..,.....

You haven't mentioned the one-trick pony Farrell playing poop tonight and getting sent to the bin for his pathetic 'tackle' and costing England any chance of winning the game, but of course form isn't something you notice is it?

Threads like this bring in advertising revenue so the mods will be told to leave them up and not to interfere. It's sad really as this used to be a good, busy forum but these days, mainly due to one very odd poster from New Zealand derailing thread after thread via his numerous aliases, it's degenerated into an RU v RL borefest with hardly anyone posting any more.

If you want real RL talk probably best to find a different forum or use Twitter like many of us are doing these days.

I have one active ID on this forum and have always only had one active ID at any time.

I have already shown you that this thread was not derailed by me, but by numerous other posters who felt the need to continue with the flawed comparisons of 2 totally different sports with varying levels of popularity. The shooting of the messenger by you is proof enough that you have nothing to add to this debate other than to scream like a little girl and hope that the moderators come along and intervene.
The harsh reality is that the OP was wrong and this annoys you because you can't accept that the International game in RL is all about 3 sides who can win it, 2 other sides that have actual natives playing for their countries and 9 "countries" rammed with heritage players. That's not development and neither is having a contrived draw that will again result in the same 3 semi-finalist in 2017 that we had in 2013 and 2008 before that and in 2000....oh and again in 1995.

Do you fancy a wager on naming 3 of the 4 semi-finalists for RLWC 2021?

I care little for the RWC 2015 but the incessant need for some RL fans to constantly try to compare the sports management with a view to painting league in a better light is insanity. International RL is what it is...a 3 horse race and we should accept that. if we are serious about developing it further, then France should be a permanent fixture in the NH 4 nations and PNG should be permanent in the SH 4 nations.
Beneath this, there should be a second tier International tournament run along the lines of the B grade union 6 nations.....games home and away over a 2 year period with strict limits on the numbers of heritage players allowed.. The RLIF/RLEF would need to assist with travel costs etc but gradually you'd see the game grow in these countries, rather than just picking 23 Aussies/Brits who's mother once drank a Pint of Guinness to represent Ireland.

The Irish guys who travelled to Serbia last month are the guys who should be trying to qualify for the World Cup and representing their country.....not Pat Richards et al.....

I didn't drift this thread and nor did I make it about the RWC. It's a sad reflection on the standard of posters here that debate is dead and accusations are the new currency. You claimed I'd ruined the thread and claimed I'd made it about the RWC 2015 and that's all people want to hear......because they can't handle certain facts. ....here's a recap for you.

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I HAD YET TO POST IN THIS THREAD AND ALREADY PEOPLE ARE COMPARING BOTH GAMES ON AND OFF THE PARK....

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SO HALF WAY THROUGH PAGE 3, WITH PLENTY OF COMPARING GOING ON AND I ADDRES THE ORIGINAL POSTERS CLAIMS

Quote: loiner81 "Maybe you should stop obsessing about Union and you should definitely hold back on the straight comparisons......

660 players in 20 squads at RUWC 2015 of which I can find 71 playing for countries other than that of their Birth. 11%........that's a lot.

322 players in 14 squads at RLWC 2013 of which I could find 159 playing for countries other than that of their birth. That's 49%....that's a Joke...even more so when you consider those 159 were split between 9 sides at over 17 per 23 man squad as an average!'"

AND THEN IT BEGINS

Quote: loiner81 "The biggest joke is that you spent your time noting the birthplace of nearly 1,000 players to try prove a point on a website.'"

Quote: loiner81 "Another thread completely derailed by the clearly unwell Gutterfax and his multiple accounts.

Didn't take long at all for this thread about international RL to become a thread about the RUWC.

Is it any wonder that hardly anyone visits this forum anymore? The mods clearly don't spend any time here and I bet ad revenue's at an all time low.

Think i'll go check Twitter out for a bit before work. This place is dead.'"

......and whilst you champion twitter, you still keep coming back here?

Its not something that the union loving media want to discuss.
The union loving media are very selective.

The double standards are breathtaking and something the USA would be proud of in foreign policy.

There won't be much advertising revenue if people leave the forum.

England RL posted on Facebook that 15k tickets have been sold for the England game at the KC, 30k for the Olympic Stadium and 13k for Wigan.

65% of sales in London are to London and South East postcodes.

I think selling out the Hull and Wigan games and getting over 40k for the Olympic stadium would be a great effort. A winning start for England against France and in the 1st test will of course help.