''you lot''?

What do you mean by that?

Good post and agree with most points but particularly about our backs; all of our back 5 apart for Yeaman looked international class and all are 23 or younger so which is great for our international future.

There's also some great young British forwards coming through in SL so I look forward to our team being competitive in future international tournaments.

The big issue going forward is obviously the halves because all of our British players don't seem to be traditional type halves to form an orthodox partnership at international level but as far as next week goes, I'd be inclined to pick McGuire instead of Chase to keep the partnership that won SL at Leeds.

The head shot did not deserve a yellow,am I reading that right,are you serious.Remember when Adrian Morley was sent off in the first minute at Wigan vs Australia,so you tell me what was the difference between that and today.

London,the metropolis of what is it around 7 million people and yet the upper tier remained empty.

Because the game was in London, and RL has been going in London for 31years it was suggested the place should be full of Londoners!
the "heartland" has had over 100 years of RL but did not fill Old trafford for the Grand Final! it was just a daft comment! By the way I am a northerner in excile down here
If this had been played at Old Trafford would it have been full? who knows, personally i would like to think so but doubt it very much

I hope the final is a sell out!

the Adrian Morley sending off, even Mozza agrees it was a sending off, first tackle of the game and a player sets his stall out like that, the ref has no choice to respond!
I have not seen the shot on TV yet so yep may change my mind, it was on the whole a pretty clean game, so i stand by it one incident like that at that stage of the game did not deserve a yellow

If 40k plus northerners made the trip south why couldn't enough Londoners at least match that figure from a huge 7 million population after 31 years of pro RL and on their own doorstep.

Stop making excuses for the Aussie who should have walked no question.

What I can't understand is why Tomkins doesn't play stand off? He looks a traditional stand off to me.

40k plus made the trip!!!!!
ok if thats what you want to think then fair enough
obviously there were no Kiwi or oz supporters there just northerners who graced Wembley with there presence!

Ref was poor 2nd half but used to poor refs tbh so onto the game.
Tomkins, Hall, Briscoe, Yeaman and Reed went well today, the rest were shocking. Summed it up for me when Sinfield was looking other way organising the next play when Chase passed out of a tackle. Same happened later with Peacock.
These are internationals FFS, the under 14's we coach have it drilled into them to never take their eyes off the ball till they actually caught it!!!!
Aussies were better than us, defended better , expected the passes and won the game end of, play people in proper positions and may do better IMO
Still think Brough or Myler should have been in at 7, kicking game today was shocking and Sinfield couldn't beat an egg at 6.

First things first. Apart from the result, that was most enjoyable game of RUGBY I've seen in the last twelve months.

England came out and played with a speed and intensity that I haven't seen, from either England/GB, seen since the 95 world cup. What they were lacking is a loose forward of the Andy Farrell or Paul Sculthorpe calibre!!! The type of LF that can guide the team around the park and take control, whilst being solid in defence. I rate Sinfield, he deserves his place, but both he and O'Loughlin, just, lack that extra bit quality Farrell and Scully brought to the team.

That said, some of the endeavour in first 20/30 minutes, was excellent and both Chase and Sinfield played some good stuff. Unfortunately, both made some crucial errors, wtf Chase was doing with that kick? It was out and out stupid.

Part of what makes the Aussies look so good is the speed at which they play the came, for the first time in along time England stood up and matched that level of intensity. Like others have pointed out, our boys just need to find that extra bit of quality in the last 20. England's job, now, is to get over that game, then go out and display that kind of effort next week.

I can't stand Graham, but the speed of our play did seem to drop, once he went off injured.

I think people are getting carried away because a few tries were scored. I didn't think England played with anywhere near the intensity of many matches over recent years. If Australia had a FB who could tackle we might not have scored so many!

I think people are getting carried away because a fe tries were scored. I didn't think australia played with anywhere near the intensity of many matches over recent years. If england had made a few better reads in defence australia might not have scored so many!

I think people are getting carried away because a fe tries were scored. I didn't think australia played with anywhere near the intensity of many matches over recent years. If england had a better Reed in defence australia might not have scored so many!