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| JM 'lost' the ball in similar circumstances 2 mins earlier, cant remember if it went forward from the strip though
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| Quote: Dally "He went to video ref for everything except for a possible try in the last second of the WC semi! The only reason I can see is that they wanted England in final. To me a clear try.'"
Not a clear try at all, 50/50 maybe, but not a clear try. Should have gone upstairs though. If it had have done it would have gone up as no try and no 100% evidence to overturn, but definitely should have been looked at.
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| Quote: caslad75 "Wasn’t it whitehead? Could be argued a one on one strip depending on whose side you are on I suppose. Fantastic game'"
As Wilkin said - would be deemed stripped everytime in Super League. Whitehead clearly targeted the ball as he had no chance of tackling him. Whatever your view the point is he did not go to the video ref for the most important moment of the WC so far. The question that has to be asked is - why? What is the point of using video if it is not to enhance the integrity of the game? As I said - cheated.
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| I think the ref has blown for the knock on before Fifita regathered and went over otherwise he may have gone to the screen.
That was a really dominant performance from us for 70 mins then we switched off. We’ll have to step up another level next week to be in with a chance.
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| I'm delighted we won but I'm fuming at the way that game ended!
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| Tupou should've caught 'that pass' then it wouldn't have mattered.
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| Quote: caslad75 "Wasn’t it whitehead? Could be argued a one on one strip depending on whose side you are on I suppose. Fantastic game'"
As Wilkin said - would be deemed stripped everytime in Super League. Whitehead clear targeted the balll as he had no chance of tackling him. Whatever your view the point us he did not go to the video ref for the most important moment of the WC so far. The question that has to be asked is - why? What is the point of using video if it is not to enhance the integrity of the game? As I said - cheated.
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| The way I’m looking at it is that if it had have been the other way around with us going for a final second win, would Tonga or anyone else been bothered about us? Would they hell, so stuff it, the scoreboard says we won. Job done!
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| Jon Wilkins talking out of his arris. Thats a loose carry every day in SL. Whitehead went for the ball yes, but he made enough of an effort for it to be a legitimate attempt at a tackle and its the ball carriers responsibility to keep hold of the ball.
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| Seen umpteen replays now. Clear loose carry. Downo and Dally talking out of their down unders - what a surprise!
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| Rewound it, played it back five times now... at first I thought it should have been a try but I’m starting to see it as a loose carry but only just
Slow it down; Fafita has a part of his arm on the ball when the ball drops after Whitehead loses contact with the ball
...loose carry
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| If you go back a few plays you'll see that the ball was taken from the England winger in similar circumstances.The ref didn't blow on that occasion so he could hardly blow up when England do the same.
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| Quote: downo "oh my, just saw the replay on the news, what a horrible farce, Tonga should have won, the ref made a terrible blunder
Your country arent good enough to beat Tonga, they should feel terribly cheated'"
Fake news Bruce. You should have watched the whole game.
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| Quote: silver2 "If you go back a few plays you'll see that the ball was taken from the England winger in similar circumstances.The ref didn't blow on that occasion so he could hardly blow up when England do the same.'"
He wasn't consistent - gave a knock on against Tonga on second tackle earlier in game when they were a few yards from our line when Tom Burgess clearly reefed it in a 3 man tackle.
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| Quote: silver2 "If you go back a few plays you'll see that the ball was taken from the England winger in similar circumstances.The ref didn't blow on that occasion so he could hardly blow up when England do the same.'"
But England didn't get the ball back so he didn't have to rule whether it was or knock or not.
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