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| You can't divide 67k by 2 because theres 2 games. You are then saying there was only 33.5k at the england nz game, when there was clearly nearly 70. And there was clearly more than that at the start of the aus fiji game.
Only way is to treat it as one game one event.
Whoever is dividing it by 2 if a ******* k**t and is doing it purely for their agenda, to draw people into a argument they know they can't win.
Yay for boring, relentless, repetitive trolls!
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| If only the RFL had staged a quadruple header along with a triple header on the same weekend instead?
The RLWC2013 attendances could have then been fudged 4 times on the Saturday at Cardiff and 3 times on the Sunday at Wembley to arrive at a smokeycalc-induced attendance of approximately ((45,052 x 3) + (67,545 x 4)) "Half-Priced Coded Discount Applied To Already Heavily Discounted World Cup Tickets Magic Attendance Double Big Hit Weekend of the Extraordinary!"[/i That's one way of ensuring the average attendance is higher than the full-priced 1995 or full-priced 2008 World Cup
OTOH, they could calculate the total aggregate attendance and divide by the number of games played in order to arrive at the average. That's how it's always been done in previous full-priced RLWC's.
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| If we count Cardiff, Wembley and all the rest as events instead...
RLWC2013 Aggregate Attendance = 457,133
Number of events = 26
Average Attendance = 17,582
RLWC1995 Aggregate Attendance = 265,609
Number of games = 15
Average Attendance = 17,707
The full-priced 1995 World Cup average attendance is still higher than the average attendance at the half-priced discount on the already heavily discounted 2013 World Cup.
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| Quote: William Eve "If we count Cardiff, Wembley and all the rest as events instead...
RLWC2013 Aggregate Attendance
One major difference is 191,524 more people watched games in 2013 than did in 1995. The economy in 1995 was far more bouyant than now so I would suggest given the small number of events the attendances were disappointing.
The average in 1995 has been raised due to the relationship between the final and the number of events. The 1995 final added 4,436 to the average whilst the 2013 final added 2,864 a decrease in effect of 35%.
Do you honestly think if you added another 11 games in 1995 they would have drawn a further 195k?
This world cup was a huge success well beyond everyone's expectations - your crassness in trying to portray pre-super league as being far supperior is duly noted. Amazing how a final with England in it at Wembley didn't even attract 70k given how superior pre-SL was (sic).
To get a world record crowd for an international should be applauded - shame it doesn't suit your agenda.
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| Quote: William Eve "If we count Cardiff, Wembley and all the rest as events instead...
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Is there any reason why you decline to mention the fact that there were only 5 games in the 1995 WC that didn't include one of the big three draws (England, Australia, NZ), whereas in 2013 I think there were 14 such games?
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| Quote: William Eve "If we count Cardiff, Wembley and all the rest as events instead...
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Thanks for finally clearing up the events thing once and for all. If we look at the breakdown between the two tournaments it provides a more realistic comparison.
Final
1995 66500 (1 event) Ave 74,000
SF
1995 46000 (2 events) Ave 67,500
QF
1995 No Events
2013 46,900 (4 events) Ave 11,725
Pool Games
1995 152500 (12 events) Ave 13,455
England Games/Events (All games)
1995 177,500 (5 events) Ave 36,900
England Games/Events (Pool Games)
1995 83,000 (3 events) Ave 31,500
Non-England Games/Events
1995 88,500 (10 events) Ave 12,976
Difficult to compare 28 game (26 event) tournament against a 15 game tournament with no QFs etc. but this seems to. Both great tournaments and should be celebrated.
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| Quote: William Eve "If we count Cardiff, Wembley and all the rest as events instead...
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Let's just have a final instead then. That would surely be better. The average could then be just 74,500.
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| There's not a mathematician, a level maths student, GCSE maths student, 11year old of a normal iq who would divide 28 data points by 26 and call it an average. The fact there are only 2 people doing so, and those two people have spent months before the WC telling us all how terrible it would be and how nobody would attend pretty much tells us all we need to know.
Everyone else accepts it's either 26 data points divided by 26 or 28 data points divided by 28, if Gutterfax and William Eve need to redefine what an average is to rescue what they think is some level of credibility, let them.
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| Quote: Shoe Shine Johnny "Thanks for finally clearing up the events thing once and for all. If we look at the breakdown between the two tournaments it provides a more realistic comparison.
Final
1995 66500 (1 event) Ave 74,000
SF
1995 46000 (2 events) Ave 67,500
QF
1995 No Events
2013 46,900 (4 events) Ave 11,725
Pool Games
1995 152500 (12 events) Ave 13,455
England Games/Events (All games)
1995 177,500 (5 events) Ave 36,900
England Games/Events (Pool Games)
1995 83,000 (3 events) Ave 31,500
Non-England Games/Events
1995 88,500 (10 events) Ave 12,976
Difficult to compare 28 game (26 event) tournament against a 15 game tournament with no QFs etc. but this seems to. Both great tournaments and should be celebrated.'"
Excellent post putting this thread to bed.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "There's not a mathematician, a level maths student, GCSE maths student, 11year old of a normal iq who would divide 28 data points by 26 and call it an average. The fact there are only 2 people doing so, and those two people have spent months before the WC telling us all how terrible it would be and how nobody would attend pretty much tells us all we need to know.
Everyone else accepts it's either 26 data points divided by 26 or 28 data points divided by 28, if Gutterfax and William Eve need to redefine what an average is to rescue what they think is some level of credibility, let them.'"
Just to be a pedant they're doing 26 data sets by 28 (otherwise they'd be getting a BIGGER average, and I'm sure they wouldn't want that!).
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