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| Quote: Robbo4 "Yet your fans all sing his name in a hero worship sort of way? They even did it today "Charlie Charlie" so why wouldn't the younger more impressionable Rovers fans look upto him?'"
I'm not a Rovers fan. HTH.
Another thing. We as the sport-loving nation we purport to be are always complaining about sports stars being "out of touch" with the public, yet the views held by Cockayne could well be shared by many a Rugby League fan. It's something that's happening here and now in our country, a result of the politics of fear that's been established by the hard right. I work with people who share similar beliefs, but i'd never consider reporting them to the police or asking them to give up doing what keeps a roof over their head.
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| Quote: Sexual Deviant "I'm not a Rovers fan. HTH.
Another thing. We as the sport-loving nation we purport to be are always complaining about sports stars being "out of touch" with the public, yet the views held by Cockayne could well be shared by many a Rugby League fan. It's something that's happening here and now in our country, a result of the politics of fear that's been established by the hard right. I work with people who share similar beliefs, but i'd never consider reporting them to the police or asking them to give up doing what keeps a roof over their head.'"
Imagine the amount of new prisons we'd need to build if everyone who got a racist text joke shopped the sender. No matter what is believed by some on here, racist humour is prevalent in our society. What Cockayne posted was awful and stupid and if everyone on here who wants him sacked, jailed or banned for life will from now on shops everyone who sends them a joke about race, religion or sexuality, we will soon be living in the Utopian world some on here believe exists now.
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| Quote: rover49 "Imagine the amount of new prisons we'd need to build if everyone who got a racist text joke shopped the sender. No matter what is believed by some on here, racist humour is prevalent in our society. What Cockayne posted was awful and stupid and if everyone on here who wants him sacked, jailed or banned for life will from now on shops everyone who sends them a joke about race, religion or sexuality, we will soon be living in the Utopian world some on here believe exists now.'"
With respect, what he posted - one comment that we are aware of and a profile Religion/Political view - were not "jokes".
Just to remind you, he refered to an Asian taxi driver as a "P*** c***", states his political view as "block up the f****** Channel Tunnel" and his religious views as "hang/burn the extremists and off with there[sic] stinking ugly heads".
Ironic as his own views are, of course, extremist.
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| Quote: ComeOnYouUll "With respect, what he posted - one comment that we are aware of and a profile Religion/Political view - were not "jokes".
Just to remind you, he refered to an Asian taxi driver as a "P*** c***", states his political view as "block up the f****** Channel Tunnel" and his religious views as "hang/burn the extremists and off with there[sic] stinking ugly heads".
Ironic as his own views are, of course, extremist.'"
But surely some of the offensive stuff sent by text is equally offensive, he is a complete idiot for HAVING such views and an even bigger one for posting them on a social networking site, but he is no more a racist than the moron who sends you jokes with racial overtones.
Anyway, there are lots of people who would block up the tunnel that are not racist and while his langauge with regards to extremists shows his own extremisms and his lack of education are you saying we should embrace extremists who would gladly blow us to kingdom come
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| Quote: rover49 "But surely some of the offensive stuff sent by text is equally offensive, he is a complete idiot for HAVING such views and an even bigger one for posting them on a social networking site, but he is no more a racist than the moron who sends you jokes with racial overtones.
Anyway, there are lots of people who would block up the tunnel that are not racist and while his langauge with regards to extremists shows his own extremisms and his lack of education are you saying we should embrace extremists who would gladly blow us to kingdom come'"
It's hardly a choice of embracing them or beheading them.
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| Quote: gary numan "Please point out where i'm 'so against the game publicly making clear that these views are only Cockaches and not representative of HKA or the game'
I think only incredibly stupid people would take a comment from one person within that organisation to go on to presume that the whole organisation was racist and didn't welcome anybody but white people. But if the organisation wants to put out a statement that's fair enough, i have no problem at all with them doing it.'"
Thats all i have argued for, and all you seem to be arguing against.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Thats all i have argued for, and all you seem to be arguing against.'"
Where?
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| Quote: t-r-i-n-i-t-y "Players should be told if they are using Facebook not to add anyone as a friend who they do not know (and yes, that includes 18 year old blondes with big boobs) and make their profile as private as possible, and if they are using Twitter...well they just probably shouldn't. Or get their agent to do it for them.'"
funnily enough he did not add me when i requested him but whist I waited for rejection he seemed to be accepting many (mostly if not all females, which i'm sure he new personally)
i agree, they should only accept people they know, and is suppose he may be regretting it now
do I think he should be sacked? the answer is No, but i would not give him a new contract either
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| Quote: hullkr-kev "funnily enough he did not add me when i requested him but whist I waited for rejection he seemed to be accepting many (mostly if not all females, which i'm sure he new personally)
i agree, they should only accept people they know, and is suppose he may be regretting it now
do I think he should be sacked? the answer is No, but i would not give him a new contract either'"
Why on earth would you want someone on your facebook page that you don't know personally?
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| Quote: PHIPPS "Why on earth would you want someone on your facebook page that you don't know personally?'"
i believe its called trawling the net looking for easy women
whilst hes obviously a berk for essentially publishing these remarks. which is what hes done really. the sad fact is that certainly a large minority (i would even go so far as to say majority in certain parts of the country) share these same attitudes. usually the kind of people who will say stuff like that but wouldnt even understand the question if you asked them to actually quantify and justify there views, and usually the kind of people who spout crap like that but wouldnt ever consider actually thinking up a solution to the 'problems' they perceive. i say perceive, when i actually mean the problems tabloid news papers tell them they should be worried about.
whats this about blocking the english channel? hes obviously making reference to migrant workers. hes even thicker than he seems if thats the case. he does realise most of his team mates are migrant workers?
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lets not beat around the bush, its british chavdom really.
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| For someone who believes in "British jobs for British people", Ben Cockayne has joined the wrong club in Hull KR!.
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| Quote: Irregular Hoops "For someone who believes in "British jobs for British people", Ben Cockayne has joined the wrong club in Hull KR!.'"
Depends how many generations you want to go back ?
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| Quote: PHIPPS "Why on earth would you want someone on your facebook page that you don't know personally?'"
Why Not
Is not that they will take some of my very boring posts and sell them to the papers is it? Ooh wait a minute
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| The moron should be booted out of pro RL. Disgusting. Is he completely brain dead?
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Thats fine, as long as HKA, and the game make it clear their views are different to Cockaches and they find those views abhorrent.'"
Much as I hate to give you the satisfaction, curiosity has got the better of me so I'll ask.
Ok I get your juvenille HKA joke but what exactly is a Cockache?
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