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| Quote: Eric Olthwaite "I would "love it'if you put the odd capital letter in your posts every now and then,are you Kevin Keegan?'"
Haven't had spam fritters for years. Are they still really good in an artery clogging way?
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| Quote: pmh "Not the time for crowing by Rovers fans, we may get our own way on this but it's hardly going to endear us to all the other clubs.
There's talk across these boards (from people who seem to have the inside line) that we and the RFL have had our hand forced on this.
Perhaps the legal people who post here could extrapolate, but is this how law evolves? Is this a test case?'"
Not sure how Rovers have had their hands forced on this (or the RFL). Care to explain?
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30596_1286642206.jpg If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.
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| Quote: Chris28 "Not sure how Rovers have had their hands forced on this (or the RFL). Care to explain?'"
I can't, I apologise.
Not sure what your agenda is here Chris28, as you will have read from my posts on other parts of the site, I know nothing of the inner machinations of what's going on and anything I've posted has mainly been posted on what you've said, because you know what you're talking about and what Kosh has said, because it would appear he has a credible inside line.
I'd love to explain, but I can't, as I've already stated over on the Rovers' board, I have no knowledge of anything.
I'm not responsible for my club, I've merely turned up, bought a ticket and enjoyed the rugby league for the last thirty years.
We've fought our way back from the brink, but for me, my club keeps pushing things too far.
I openly accept that my view can be quite correctly criticised.
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| Quote: Standee "Mason was threatening to sign for an Aussie club if they didn't get him over a.s.a.p'"
Link?
Quote: Standee "Unlike Rob Crossland on the private KR board, where he is gloating like mad.
idiot'"
Gloating?
Still waiting.....
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| Quote: Bighead "who said anything about it not been fair? rover's are once again showing themselves to be a joke with even more flouting of the rules to get even more overseasplayers on their books. they're not just an embarrassment to themselves and their fans but to the game as a whole. its a constant stream of events like this that are slowly turning people (like myself) away from the game, it really is a second rate, poorly run, shambles of a sport.
anyway i've heard more whinging today from rover's fan than i have anyone else's. even your own lot think its a disgusting way to carry on. but cheating and whinging is the east hull way'"
Erm, Jamie Thakery anyone?
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| Quote: Kosh "@RichardAgar is a fake account, which means that Morgan is either in on the joke and having a laff, incredibly gullible, or another fake account.'"
He's definitely a fake account. Damn, I have accidentally repeated your mistake of adding an extra ac and o
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| Quote: Dudley "Erm, Jamie Thakery anyone?'"
yeah, just the same scenario this one. Well done and congratulations
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| Quote: hull smallears "
You really were dropped on your head as a small child weren't you
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| Quote: roversmad "You really were dropped on your head as a small child weren't you
As I replied last night before being banned for calling Rovers a Joke, yes I was. YOu on the other hand have probably been kicked repeatedly in the head. Maybe even by one of your players.
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| Quote: pmh "I can't, I apologise.
Not sure what your agenda is here Chris28, as you will have read from my posts on other parts of the site, I know nothing of the inner machinations of what's going on and anything I've posted has mainly been posted on what you've said, because you know what you're talking about and what Kosh has said, because it would appear he has a credible inside line.
I'd love to explain, but I can't, as I've already stated over on the Rovers' board, I have no knowledge of anything.
I'm not responsible for my club, I've merely turned up, bought a ticket and enjoyed the rugby league for the last thirty years.
We've fought our way back from the brink, but for me, my club keeps pushing things too far.
I openly accept that my view can be quite correctly criticised.'"
good post.
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| Quote: hull smallears "As I replied last night before being banned for calling Rovers a Joke, yes I was. YOu on the other hand have probably been kicked repeatedly in the head. Maybe even by one of your players.'"
Banned for the truth...mental times
Bet we all know who banned you
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
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| Quote: Him "I have absolutely no idea what the point of your sentence was, other than yet another rant directed towards Hull KR.
'" In that case I feel for you.
Quote: Him "No they're not. They are allowing a club to de-register a player. Which is allowed in the Operational Rules. Which other rules should the RFL not let clubs abide by? Or is it just Hull KR. Why aren't you getting this upset over Pat Richards Irish passport? Or Brent Webb's exclusion from the Non-Fed Trained list?
'" Because it happened about 2 years ago. And at the time i said it was a stupid concession to lazy short-term thinking. We have too many overseas players. There is no need for us to have the same amount this season as last. Wigan have too many.
There are no rules in the operational rules which i would let clubs not abide by in this circumstance. Hull KR have made their bed by trying to use loopholes to squeeze in an extra overseas player by using a passport of convenience. Im not sure why we should be granting dispensation to expedite this.
Quote: Him "Really? I think the RFL have just spelt out that the rule was put in place forYou think 10 overseas players, with 6 counting on the quota isnt stockpiling? you think that taking one of the quota whilst injured replacing him with another, then taking that player of the quota and adding the previous one isnt developing a carousel.
Quote: Him "No I haven't, you have contradicted yourself several times on this thread, often within the same post. You started off being happy that it would go to the RFL board if it was exceptional, that then changed when you quickly remembered how much you dislike Hull KR. You admitted yourself it was an exceptional case, then you decided it wasn't, then you decided it was. The same goes for your reluctance to admit that Hull KR haven't actually broken any rules.'" I have never said i would be happy if it was exceptional, you have simply made that up. I have said it is exceptional as in not common, not exceptional in deserving dispensation.
And again, its a very simply concept. Hull KR have (or are planning on) breaking the rules. They have apparently asked for dispensation to do so which it has been indicated they will be given. If they werent breaking the rules, why would they need to ask for or receive dispensation?
Quote: Him "Either it is an exceptional case and worthy of RFL Board discussion or it isn't, there is no halfway house with this.
Either Hull KR have broken rules or they haven't.
Which is it Smokey?'"
I have no interest in your nonsense false dichotomy. Your either/or situation simply doesnt apply in the real world.
Things that are uncommon dont by their definition of simply being uncommon deserve discussion of the RFL board with a view to granting dispensation. By being uncommon (or exceptional) it simply means it doesnt happen very often.
Things which do deserve discussion by the RFL board with a view to granting a dispensation would be things which were exceptional as in so far beyond the realms of normality as to represent a situation not covered by the existing rules. This situation clearly is not one of those.
Now i cant be the first one to have taught you this, but to sum up what seems to be your confusion and why you keep bringing up your nonsense false dichotomies, as Robert Plant said, "'Cause you know sometimes words have....Two meanings"
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| Quote: pmh "I can't, I apologise.
Not sure what your agenda is here Chris28, as you will have read from my posts on other parts of the site, I know nothing of the inner machinations of what's going on and anything I've posted has mainly been posted on what you've said, because you know what you're talking about and what Kosh has said, because it would appear he has a credible inside line.
I'd love to explain, but I can't, as I've already stated over on the Rovers' board, I have no knowledge of anything.
I'm not responsible for my club, I've merely turned up, bought a ticket and enjoyed the rugby league for the last thirty years.
We've fought our way back from the brink, but for me, my club keeps pushing things too far.
I openly accept that my view can be quite correctly criticised.'"
No agenda and no criticism of you - apologies if it came across like that. I was just intrigued that you thought Rovers had been forced into the Mason arrival and deregistering of Dobson. IMO they've taken advantage of Dobson's injury to get Mason here and playing. No compulsion to do it, just that the timing worked for them.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "
Because it happened about 2 years ago. And at the time i said it was a stupid concession to lazy short-term thinking. We have too many overseas players. There is no need for us to have the same amount this season as last. Wigan have too many. '"
No it didn't happen 2 years ago, it happened this year. Both Leeds & Wigan have signed overseas players whilst "circumventing the rules", why aren't you as annoyed at that as you are at this?
Quote: SmokeyTA "There are no rules in the operational rules which i would let clubs not abide by in this circumstance. Hull KR have made their bed by trying to use loopholes to squeeze in an extra overseas player by using a passport of convenience. Im not sure why we should be granting dispensation to expedite this. '"
But Hull KR are abiding by the rules. They have effectively sacked 1 player and signed another. What's the problem?
Quote: SmokeyTA "You think 10 overseas players, with 6 counting on the quota isnt stockpiling? you think that taking one of the quota whilst injured replacing him with another, then taking that player of the quota and adding the previous one isnt developing a carousel. '"
No because you fundamentally (or deliberately) misunderstand the RFL's statement. By a carousel of players it is meant that they shouldn't be de-registering and re-registering players on a regular basis.
Also which 6 players are those that count on the quota? I'd love to know especially since Dobson is no longer a Hull KR player.
Quote: SmokeyTA "I have never said i would be happy if it was exceptional, you have simply made that up. I have said it is exceptional as in not common, not exceptional in deserving dispensation. '"
Ok Smokey whatever you say. You accept it's exceptional but it's not exceptional. Fair enough lad.
Quote: SmokeyTA "And again, its a very simply concept. Hull KR have (or are planning on) breaking the rules. They have apparently asked for dispensation to do so which it has been indicated they will be given. '"
Again, and you've been asked this several times without answering it, which rules are Hull KR breaking? If you can't answer it stop insinuating that Hull KR are in breach of RFL Operational Rules.
Quote: SmokeyTA "If they werent breaking the rules, why would they need to ask for or receive dispensation? '"
Come on Smokey stop being deliberately thick. You were even the first one on this thread to quote the rule FFS.
Quote: SmokeyTA "I have no interest in your nonsense false dichotomy. Your either/or situation simply doesnt apply in the real world. '"
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