Concentrate on the positives - excellent crowd for Saints, I reckon, while it speaks volumes that a crowd of that size is almost expected from Hull.

Round 1

JB, you are missing a figure for average crowd overall it's here if you need to check it www.slstats.org/Attendances/

JB, you are missing a figure for average crowd overall it's here if you need to check it www.slstats.org/Attendances/

Earlier in this thread someone mentioned changing the current Magic weekend format once it has run its course. My view would be to have something like this;

Wakey vs Cas, Fev vs Fax, Dewsbury vs Batley - Oakwell
Leeds vs Bradford, Bramley vs Hunslet, Keighley vs (championship side)- Hillsborough
Saints vs Cru, Widnes vs Leigh and another Championship match- Anfield
Wigan vs Salford, Oldham vs Rochdale, another Championship - City of Manchester
Cumbrian matches in Gatehead/Newcastle?
Les Cats vs Quins, Toulouse vs (championship side), two French teams - Paris/Barca
FC vs KR, championship match, Dutch vs Lion Hearts (whatever they're called) - Amsterdam

Have SL headlining match with two matches between smaller clubs. SL fans can enjoy championship and vice versa. Championship clubs benefit from a spectacle like SL already do. Dot the games around the place appealing to new, but local, regionalised areas, so its isn't too far for fans to travel and but breaks into areas without strong RL roots. Have one of these special fixtures every two weeks, so they can be televised, but not over saturate portion of seasonal fixture. Most importantly; well priced tickets; £5 for concessions, £10-£15 for adults with special offers for respective Football ST holders.

(I realise Hudds and Wire aren't on the list, but I'm typing and thinking quickly before my girlfriend makes me go to the ballet!!!!!!!)

It still amazes me that the RFL seem to have succesfully persuaded league fans that attendances are something that should impact so heavily on a teams success. Wigan in the prem have some awful crowds, but they are still there on merit (for now at least). Kicking out Quins or Salford because they are not getting the crowds in would be incredibly harsh. (Though obviously not if their on field performances remain awful too)

TBH, both Salford and Quins will struggle at the foot of the table this year, so I can't see a massive increase in gates compared to last year for either. Quins are planning a potential "double header" with the Union lot, which will artificially inflate their average for the season, so Salford may well end up with a lower average than Quins RL at the end of the season....which would make the RFL's decision easier.........even though at the last double header, Quins RL reported a gate of 12k, most of these had left at the end of the union or were in the bars.......not that I would ever suggest anything untowards occurring this time

Until bricks are laid and turnstiles fitted, there are a number of clubs that should have twitchy bums, but if 1 is going to be ejected, the RFL may allow for delayed stadiums due to the recession, then it will be between Salford or Quins.....and we know where SKY and Mr Lewis stand on this.

haha what did I say to get that sortof reaction??

Basically you posted a rubbish idea , fans will not travel to see meaningless friendlies mid season , and all club coaches would be putting out the kids

Non starter

Amazing how Salford managed to draw 5,000 crowds when in the championship a few years back and battling it out with Widnes for a franchise and now they're in a league higher and getting around 3,500.

Hmmmmmmmm

Oh and talking about attendances what about the NRC final being played as a curtain raiser to the challenge cup at Wembley? as it currently stands the new Wembley holds 90,000 i think so will always struggle to sell out for a final.