Yes. Absolutely. Add to that Wales, Scotland & Ireland but bearing this in mind ........................



Without fanning the flames of your already misguided take on people's thoughts i would also like to see man colonise Jupiter but i don't think we should send seven astronauts up in the Space Shuttle this year to try and achieve it. It just might not work because i don't think NASA is ready yet.

thats a no to me.

being in favour of expansion means in reality not in theory which has so many impossible conditions that it eliminates expansion clubs from SL.

the RFL has tried 5 expansion clubs : CC, Quins and LC, gateshead, and PSG.

only one has been an outstanding success whilst the others really have some success and some failure.

im happy if the RFL continues trying for top down expansion clubs and can only produce one outstanding success for 5 clubs that arent like that.

theres nothing wrong with trying and failing.

my contention is poor clubs have no one to blame but themselves for being that way

a bit like people on social security rely on the government to survive, they rely on the RFL to survive rather than getting off their backsides and working for it

quite a few clubs have managed to grow from small status to much larger status, especially Huddersfield and Hull KR. if other clubs cant match it, its their fault.

But that takes up somebody's cash and it sends a message to other possible future "investors" .

...................and when i talk about expansion, i'm not talking about "in theory". I'm talking about laying the groundwork in development. Putting down roots. The long haul. Those looking for a quick product off the shelf are going to be sorely disappointed.

Once again, please remove Les Catalans from your examples - Rugby League is already played in that region.

stop talking nonsense.

widnes, leeds and wigan have all taken peoples money and it hasnt hurt them a bit

you place conditions on expansion clubs which are impossible to fullfill thereby meaning we dont get any in SL.

nice work.

lets play the same game with heartland clubs

the only ones allowed in SL should have all seater grounds with capacity of 20,000 and average crowds of 10,000

No i don't. List the conditions that i've placed? Who's posts are you reading when you come out with this garbage? I merely suggest that a new club has to lay some sort of foundation in order to succeed - a home, a fan base - that sort of thing. You're thinking these things just spring to life because someone creates a club in SL and tells it's locals to turn up and watch. You're off your trolly sunshine.

the only succesful expansion the RFLs tried was top down!

they tried the whole bottom up nonsense with CC and it didnt work.

ill make this very simple for you.

should toulose be in SL next time?

yes or no

Les catalans should be removed from your example. It was created out of XIII Catalan & AS Saint Estève

Should Toulouse be put into Super League? I will admit to you that i am apprehensive AT THIS STAGE about their inclusion but yes, i would take a punt. They've been there for a while you see. They have a home, a fan base, that sort of thing.

well at least theres one thing we can agree on if not anything else.

"Hali-friggin-looooya"

Oi D i c k head

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Good idea , do you think if they ask nicely the government will change the laws on gambling in this country so we can fund our sport in the same way that RL in Australia has been ' bailed out ' for decades ?

Without the money from the ' pokey ' machines RL in oz would be on a par with NL's

Do you want to try again ?

I called him that too and now i feel bad.

Yes it does seem that ' abusing other RL fans does come easier to tother side than us ' old fashioned ' followers of the sport , I only do it as a last resort to get them to answer something they insist on ignoring

That's a false dichotomy. You can support Toulouse's inclusion without supporting a bodged rush job. If they meet the playing criteria I'll support their inclusion for 2012, but 2015 is more realistic. I do support their inclusion, but some of us are more patient about these things and don't really care when as long as it happens right.

It is not an excuse, unless what the paranoid delusional trolls claim, it is common sense to prevent another Crusaders example (with you and all the other supported rabidly and have since all changed your mind on).

Most people on here supported Catalans and yes some legitimate flatcappers opposed them and yes some Widnes fans were annoyed about losing their spot in the league, but it was nothing like the near universal, and rightfully so, opposition to Crusaders being in SL

You're weird .

I'm off.