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| Quote: SmokeyTA "If thats the case, would it not be better to maybe not give them any money, but instead spend the money on a centralised marketing and administration system? or have RFL youth coaches visiting and working with the clubs rather than giving them money to spend on coaches?'"
yes definitely. Like Starbug says in the post above. or rather the previous page.
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Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
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SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
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| Quote: Marto "yes definitely. Like Starbug says in the post above. or rather the previous page.'"
Thing is Marto , How many posters on here after having read my idea will be thinking that by ' Marketing ' I mean raising corporate and sponsorship interest , when what I really mean is fans through the turnstyles
Quite simply the 1 st step should be to double the attendances in the Championships , which shouldn't be too hard considering how bad they currently are
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| Quote: Starbug "Thing is Marto , How many posters on here after having read my idea will be thinking that by ' Marketing ' I mean raising corporate and sponsorship interest , when what I really mean is fans through the turnstyles
Quite simply the 1 st step should be to double the attendances in the Championships , which shouldn't be too hard considering how bad they currently are'" Yeah i know.
the corparate £££ is good but bums on seats or through turn styles is the way to go.
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| Quote: Marto "Yeah i know.
the corparate £££ is good but bums on seats or through turn styles is the way to go.'"
No wonder the RFL don't like you
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| Quote: Leyther_Matt "No wonder the RFL don't like you
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| The thing is the more ' bums on seats ' you have , the easier it is to get the corporate sponsor
Having decent corporate sponsorship does not bring in ' bums on seats '
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| Quote: Marto "
I counter your statement about wealthy benefactors being fans of the club and all you can do is talk about money and success they have brought. How did that make Caddick a Rhinos fan pre him buying the club. Steven Vaughan was never a fan of any of the clubs he's ruined, but why should we let that get in the way of your ideas. I can live with Ken Davy Doing what he wants. but what happens should his business empire go bust? where will that leave the giants and HTFC?
Your dislike of money and success are shining through, yet again. You might not like tens of thousands of fans watching games - I do. You might not like a top youth development system - I do. You may not like watching a good RL team - but many in Leeds love it. So Caddick doesn't fit your flat cap view of a supporters, tough.
Organisations 'go bust'. Commonly owned organisations ' go bust' It happens. Sadly some numpties have this wealthy backer
You really have no idea what you are talking about. Maybe you should apply for a job with the RFL. They could do with more people like you. possibly a job in development.
Should I? Could they? How lovely. I love you common ownership kiddies. Often so far up themselves. They wet themselves over the odd exception like Scott Bader / Baxi /Kantega/Mondragon and fail to see how small they are in the wider business context.Needing to pretend that private business is..bad. Rarely mentioning the many commonly owned flops.Their impotent evangelising has a niave charm.
and as for your statement about twee common ownership and it been a joke. maybe you've heard of a small team called FC Barcelona? They certainly aren't a joke.
[Sorry I should have added Barcelona to the previous list. I know it is a name you common ownership Johnies like to mention. How lucky for you that barcelona (with their £Ms from free market companies
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icons077e_files/5454-3678dentheman-msnicons.jpg Your job is to say to yourself on a job interview does the hiring manager likes me or not. If you aren't a particular manager's cup of tea, you haven't failed -- you've dodged a bullet.:icons077e_files/5454-3678dentheman-msnicons.jpg |
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| Quote: Starbug "So basically you advocate the Australian model of ' feeder ' clubs ?'"
Not exactley but a more integrated way of running things
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "if the RFL were to do this, wouldnt this cast a huge doubt on clubs in the championships ability to run themselves as a viable business
making it much more difficult for a championship club to prove itself worthy of a franchise?'"
Why , how many people do Quins have in their marketing dept ? , or Celtic
In fact having a think about it today as the Skolars would find it difficult to ' partner up ' you could have them arrange things with Quins and Celtic
It all comes down to money , the non SL clubs dont have any so instead of having maybe one person working on their own not really getting anywhere , you have a team working full time on marketing but ' blitzing ' one club in any given week
The people the clubs supply learn more about marketing as a result so if that club then does get into SL you have an experienced person to head up any marketing that club then does
Like ' training '
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "It should do both
there is no either/or situation here'"
I agree , but the towns where many of the Championship clubs come from are very similar to Leigh , they no longer have large companies operating in them and the corporate support is no longer there [ if it ever was ] , that combined with in some cases the losing of the ' holy Grail ' of SL means chasing that support is a total waste of time
Spread your resourses too thinly and you achive nothing , plus there is time in the ' off ' season to look at that side of things , and for potentially directors to be better suited to deal with it
What I am reffering to is during the season
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