Quote: vastman "See you're lying again to cover up your endless gaffs.
Note the expression "I suspect" - that is the key. I have no way of knowing if this reserve grade Samoan International will be a success anymore than I knew whether the Paul brothers would. What is sad is that neither do you but your sheer arrogance and pomposity leads me to believe you think you do. What you can't seem to accept is that a no name can become a big name and a big name can become a nobody overnight. Would you like me to list the Leeds players who have fallen into this catagory.
Willie Poching is a classic example - a dozen games for a one season stop gap club Hunter Mariners. Had it not been for the SL war he would have played no more than a handful of NRL games. He came to the UK joining Hunslet then being picked up by Wakey at the age of 24 I believe. Now where did he go after that and how many of that cubs players did he rob of a chance. Poching was every bit a reserve grade player when he came to SL, would you care to dismiss him as a player who gave a lot to SL?
In terms of playing pedigree the younger Winestien has a better history, Easts and the Bulldogs with 5 appearances and an Aussie Schoolboy player to boot. He has been released by the Bulldogs to ease their cap, they were by all accounts only willing to release him to SL and not another NRL club - what does that suggest?'"
we are supposed to be improving, we are supposed to be making efforts to catch up to the NRL, you dont do that by bringing in players not good enough,
as for Poching- have we not improved are we not a more professional game than 10 years ago? its 14 years since the game went fully pro not 4 we should demand more of our clubs now than 4 years in to professionalism, and besides, the first 5 or so years of SL were an embarrassment from an administration point of view and saw more money wasted that at any other time in the game,
also he has pretty much the same junior pedigree, Poching was a junior Kiwi and had played for Brisbane, Auckland, NQC and Hunter, and was brought over by a semi pro second division outfit, not a franchised SL side
and again, your desperation to hide behind the 'who knows how good he is yet' argument still fails to address the point, that bringing over 1 overseas player and taking a punt on him, is different to bringing over 11 and building a team around them
Quote: vastman "As for Ferguson, no one has said he is the best young player in the world or the UK. The fact that you assume he is a decent player just shows how fake your opinions are. You see no one at Wakefield has seen enough of him in SL to make such a claim so how you manage it beggers belief. He is a prospect and the original point way back was not how good he was or wasn't but how we as Wakey fans should push his case like Cas fans push Westermans. Of course this is lost to you in your blind desperation to have a poke at him.'"
hmm, did i say he was a decent player or a decent prospect? think on about what prospect means,
Quote: vastman "As for not being the best in his position, pray tell, what do you think his normal position is?'"
i would say his natural position will be british style second rower or and Aussie style loose forward
