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Quote: Starbug "It is their choice

But like many others on here you are suggesting that 1 st there are some gay players in the 1 st place when you dont know [ dont go quoting statistics , they are not relevant ] for certain , and also that they might want to keep their private life , private'"



As I said earlier

Statistically we should have a certain number of Homosexual,BNP supporting Catholics playing RL as well as a certain number of Straight,Tory Jews , not forgetting the Cross Dressing,Raving loony party Muslims

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Quote: Starbug "But like many others on here you are suggesting that 1 st there are some gay players in the 1 st place when you dont know [ dont go quoting statistics , they are not relevant ] for certain , and also that they might want to keep their private life , private'"


I'm not suggesting that there are gay players, however:
If there are no gay players that suggests there is something putting gay people off from the sport.
If there are gay players and they all feel they have to keep this private (as Smokey says if they didn't it would be public) it suggests they are afraid of the consequences of being open.

Either way there's a problem. In all likelihood both are true and part of what puts gay people off is the lack of any gay players. If there wasn't a problem this thread would never have made it beyond one page.

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Quote: Lord God Jose Mourinho "I don't believe there is the interest in RL for a newspaper to "out" a player. Unless there was a story to it, for example the lover of a player going to a paper with his story, then a newspaper won't just run the story.

As an example, it was clear to Brian Clough that Justin Fashanu was gay. Fashanu was often seen in gay night clubs. But it only became a newspaper story at the end of Fashanu's career, when he came out to the Sun after an incident involving the police in the US.'"
and that is a terrible story which in the end cost a man his life. and your time line is a little wrong, It was Fashanu's coming out which effectively ended his career, not his coming out because his career had ended

I would bloody hope we would deal with a similar situation pretty differently.

And also, this was 20 years ago.

Quote: Lord God Jose Mourinho "IMO there is a world of difference between being openly gay and publicly gay. IMO anyone with any sense would not choose to be publicly gay. A RL career is a short career and there are very few players who would want the hassle that being publicly gay brings.'"

exactly, and its a problem that this is the case. Its pathetic to be honest

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Quote: Starbug "As I said earlier

Statistically we should have a certain number of Homosexual,BNP supporting Catholics playing RL as well as a certain number of Straight,Tory Jews , not forgetting the Cross Dressing,Raving loony party Muslims'"


there are a lot more homosexuals than straight tory jews, BNP supporting Catholics and Cross dressing raving loony party muslims.

If any of these were significant portions of the population and we didnt have any, at all, then it would also be an issue.

And again. If we dont have any homosexuals in the game why not? and if we have none who feel comfortable coming out, why not?

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It's only an issue if you want it to be an issue. And you seem very desperate to make it a RL issue. I suppose everyone needs a hobby.

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Quote: Lord God Jose Mourinho "It's only an issue if you want it to be an issue. And you seem very desperate to make it a RL issue. I suppose everyone needs a hobby.'"



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Quote: Lord God Jose Mourinho "It's only an issue if you want it to be an issue. And you seem very desperate to make it a RL issue. I suppose everyone needs a hobby.'"

you're correct. Homophobia is only a problem if we take notice of it. If we pretend it doesnt happen and bury our heads in the sand its not an issue

maybe we should take the same track with racism and all bigotry

we clearly dont need to wonder why some groups may feel excluded from our game if we just pretend they dont exist

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Quote: SmokeyTA "you're correct. Homophobia is only a problem if we take notice of it. If we pretend it doesnt happen and bury our heads in the sand its not an issue

maybe we should take the same track with racism and all bigotry

we clearly dont need to wonder why some groups may feel excluded from our game if we just pretend they dont exist'"


Spot on definatly not enough Chinese and Dwarfs in the sport , more needs to be done

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Quote: Starbug "Spot on definatly not enough Chinese and Dwarfs in the sport , more needs to be done'"
we should probably look at why more ethnic minorities arent in the sport.

Why are there so few players of asian descent in our game when there is such a large minority in our heartland areas? are we doing enough to attract them? are they in some way finding the game isnt welcoming them?

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: SmokeyTA "we should probably look at why more ethnic minorities arent in the sport.

Why are there so few players of asian descent in our game when there is such a large minority in our heartland areas? are we doing enough to attract them? are they in some way finding the game isnt welcoming them?'"


Correct , a much more pressing concern than if we have any Gay players or if those Gay players want to keep their private lives private

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Quote: SmokeyTA "we should probably look at why more ethnic minorities arent in the sport.

Why are there so few players of asian descent in our game when there is such a large minority in our heartland areas? are we doing enough to attract them? are they in some way finding the game isnt welcoming them?'"


Oh I dunno, there's LOADS of Australians, especially in North Wales, where they MUST be an ethnic minority.

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Quote: Starbug "Spot on definatly not enough Chinese and Dwarfs in the sport , more needs to be done'"


I'd definately pay to watch the Chinese first 13 take on a team of dwarfs. Has anyone suggested a dwarf team play in the championship next season?

Or even an Aussie team. We could call them Crusaders...

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: chunkyhugo "I'd definately pay to watch the Chinese first 13 take on a team of dwarfs. Has anyone suggested a dwarf team play in the championship next season?

Or even an Aussie team. We could call them Crusaders...'"


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Quote: Starbug "Correct , a much more pressing concern than if we have any Gay players or if those Gay players want to keep their private lives private'"

It's not an either/or.

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: af "It's not an either/or.'"



Never said it was , but it is clear how many asians we have playing the game , whereas the situation with Gay players is more difficult to define

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