Correct he clearly grounded it it should have been an 8 point try with that rat of a full back given a red.

Also why are we still delaying kick off so these lot can do their silly rain dance?

Decent, tough, brutal game. Nice to see some needle in it.

Scrappy first half. Thompson and Hill look like the only English forwards on the pitch. Bateman playing well

The rules are rules but I would like the referees to have a go at defending from Full Back trying to stop a try

Exactly. His knees hit the ground first. He wasn't trying to knee the player in the head.

Kiwi full back at fault for both of England’s scores. He’s their weak link and the reason we’re still in the game.

The ball wasn’t grounded so penalty try is correct decision, yellow card offence.

But he still did knee the player in the head. Players don't try and come up with high shots but they're still a penalty when it happens.

I would agree, its the myth that if you play in NRL your international class.

Scrappy, seriously have you never watched the game before?

Watch him in defence, he's jumped in and across a number of times when Johnson has the ball, they have spotted it and have run it down his channel on the last a couple of times because of it.

And so far they've not got past. He's coming up with the tackles.

True but not every high shot is a yellow card. There is no way the player should of been binned for that.

England really need to sort their kicking game.

Powder puff three quarter line is going to cost us this game