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| Quote: The Reason "Your probably right given previous form ..
According to the anti-doping code, a governing body must tell Ukad immediately if it "learns of information suggesting or relating in any way to an apparent anti-doping rule violation by an athlete or athlete support personnel under its jurisdiction." The RFL says because the supplement was only prohibited in-competition it had "no requirement" to tell Ukad. If the players stopped taking it on the Friday it would be out of their system by matchday on Sunday. In the aftermath, Hull players were to admit taking it on matchdays.
That Friday, Rosewarne took more calls from Rule. The source was established as Oxyelite Pro. Rule told Rosewarne, as she testified, "it had been brought into the squad originally by Sean Long". Rimmer was also told that Long had given it to Gleeson.
The following morning Rule produced statements from Gleeson, Cooper and himself in an attempt to have Gleeson's provisional suspension lifted and allow him to play in the derby. Long was not mentioned. Rule emailed the statements to Rosewarne. The absence of any mention of Long did not appear to concern her. "I didn't think it was relevant," she said. The suspension was lifted.
The statements resulted from a meeting on Saturday morning in Rule's office, attended by Gleeson, Long, coach Richard Agar and Cooper. There are differing versions as to what happened, how long it lasted and who was there for how long. Long and Gleeson say all five were there for its 15-minute entirety. "We were told that whatever was discussed was to stay within those four walls," Long said.
The two players, according to their interviews, objected to Rule's proposed lie, the fact of you taking them on game day."
Ukad spent the next few months conducting extensive interviews. There are some peculiar replies from RFL officials. Rosewarne, in discussing how Hull would pick their squad for the derby with the issue of Gleeson's suspension hanging over the player, said "until that stage it wasn't going to be my problem because I'd be in the air [flying to Australia] by then". Rimmer admitted that the RFL did nothing to look into Gleeson and Long's claims when they emerged because of the two players "credibility". Hardman was told by Gleeson "a lot of the first-team lads" took the supplement. Hardman said he had a relaxed feeling about the first case and did not expect Ukad to push hard.
On 11 October Rule was charged by Ukad with violating anti-doping rules. On the same day Hull announced he had resigned because he had "decided to move on". Rule did not contest the charge. On 28 December Ukad announced Rule and Cooper had become the first off-field personnel to be banned for a drug offence. Both were given two year bans, Cooper's halved for co-operating. Gleeson was given a three-year ban, reduced to 18 months for blowing the whistle.
The RFL told The Independent it has conducted a "full review of its procedures" and made some "operational changes" but is "completely satisfied our officers acted entirely appropriately throughout, a view shared by Ukad, whose exhaustive independent investigation and subsequent review involving two independent legal firms found that the RFL officers had no case to answer".
Fitzgibbon, in an interview with Ukad in which he expressed his horror at the thought he had taken a banned substance, said
So it was external drug testers and not hull F.C.?
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King James
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King James'"
No, i don't do,or have access to FB, or twitter either.
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Mods can I post the link ?
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Yeah why not.
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| Quote: Sheldon "Yeah why not.'" it contains foul language
Will I break the a.u.p. Don’t want to get into bother . |
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| go for it...we're all adults !  |
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| Quote: Budgiezilla "go for it...we're all adults ! ![]()
I will if the Mods give permission . The way he spoke to that young girl calling her a Sl*t , and his incoherence is appalling it looks more than just alcohol .
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I know, was just messing. Not pleasant to watch....he obviously has little respect for females, regardless of what he'd drank or taken.
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| Quote: The Reason "it contains foul language
Will I break the a.u.p. Don’t want to get into bother .'"
Sheldon (Mod),said it's ok if you can put the link on.  |
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| Quote: Cokey "Sheldon (Mod),said it's ok if you can put the link on. ![]()
If another mod says it’s ok I can share the link . No disrespect to Sheldon .
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| Quote: Barrett was robbed "His jaws got one of best steps I've ever seen, I didn't have a clue which way it was gonna go'"
Ketamine does that. Just saying. |
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Ive just seen the footage and it's not great in today's environment of equality etc.He's steaming drunk,totally gone. Don't begrudge players drinks personally at the right time as long as they perform on the pitch. Public apology from him and maybe some VIP tickets for the girl swore at and they move on.
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| Quote: craig hkr "Ive just seen the footage and it's not great in today's environment of equality etc.He's steaming drunk,totally gone. Don't begrudge players drinks personally at the right time as long as they perform on the pitch. Public apology from him and maybe some VIP tickets for the girl swore at and they move on.'"
Last week you were out drinking with Hull fans in West Hull watching Hull v Leeds . Now your defending Kelly .
I always thought you were a Hull FC fan . |
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| Quote: The Reason "If another mod says it’s ok I can share the link . No disrespect to Sheldon .'"
Blimey, the rlfans mods won't have you killed if you post it...are you for real ? |
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| Quote: King Street Cat "Ketamine does that. Just saying.'"
Can see why many are drawing same conclusion.You would have to drink an awful lot of booze to get in that much of a state ?But he is well known for loving his beer. Guess the truth of it will come out? |
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