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Quote: pie.warrior "so after 11 games we have a top league of 8 teams.........any mention of how many teams qualify for the Play offs for the grand final...leave it at 8 and no match whatsoever would mean anything as they are all qualified........what genius thought this idea up............'"


icon_confused.gif Somehow I doubt that would be the case. Presumably playoffs would be top 2-3 max under such a system.

But yep, the problem with this is that we don't have 24 teams that can compete, or even survive with the money we can bring in at the moment.

The league structure itself is hardly complicated.

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What a crackpot idea this is. Where is the extra money that will be needed to finance this going to come from? As things stand the second level teams would just be playing for the right to be flogged by the teams that drop down from the first level.

Would people be willing to buy season tickets for Cas, Wakey, Rovers or Salford if they think that there is a good chance that their clubs are suddenly going to be playing the top clubs at one half of the season to playing second tier clubs the next?

During the second stage of the season teams will more likely to be playing each other home and away to make up for the smaller divisions, so for the top eight clubs that would be three times in the league plus Challenge Cup and any playoff system. It would be like going back to the overkill of several years ago.

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SL needs to come up with a plan to increase funding by 7 mill a year, then the club grants can be at an amount that actually keeps the league sustainable.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "So because of a minority of lower league clubs moaning.'"


This has nothing to do with Championship Chairmen. The meeting to decide this loony scheme was attended and voted on democratically by SL chairmen. It's designed to stem the tide of SL clubs going bust.

Don't taint "the lower leagues" with the sticky brush of SL icon_smile.gif

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Quote: littlerich "This has nothing to do with Championship Chairmen. The meeting to decide this loony scheme was attended and voted on democratically by SL chairmen. It's designed to stem the tide of SL clubs going bust.

Don't taint "the lower leagues" with the sticky brush of SL It’s a proposal from the RFL which has been presented to the SL club chairmen. It hasn’t yet been voted on, ratified, or anything else yet. Hopefully the proposal was laughed out of the room with derision it deserves.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "So because of a minority of lower league clubs moaning very loudly, we now have a proposal which will alter the entire structure of the pro game so that if these smaller clubs are lucky, with a fair wind, they could, possibly, hopefully, get a whole 5 home games against the big sides. '"

I would suggest it's highly unlikely that the RFL are changing the structure of the elite competition just to placate [i"a minority of lower league clubs moaning very loudly"[/i but your obsession with small clubs having the impudence to speak out is duly noted. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: SmokeyTA "It’s a proposal from the RFL which has been presented to the SL club chairmen. It hasn’t yet been voted on, ratified, or anything else yet. Hopefully the proposal was laughed out of the room with derision it deserves.'"


Do you think it will be dismissed by the majority?

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So we're tumbling towards a 12 team and then an 8 team top flight, fantastic..........really fantastic.
Stuff like this should improve spectator numbers for the amateur game, because nobody is going to want to watch the new pro RL pantomime icon_sad.gif

The important thing is to work out the reasoning behind this.
Is it to pacify the big boys at the top of the pile and promise them super intense games every week and then to soften the effects of the axe swinging at the bottom clubs and then to give a ray of hope to the tope 3 or 4 CC clubs.

Somebody needs to explain what, exactly, they are trying to achieve.

More competitive games
Promotion and relegation
Expansion in France/ Wales
Increased TV income

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Current Whipping Boy SL Rabble clubs and their supporters in particular are going to have a real problem with this proposed structure.

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Quote: littlerich "Do you think it will be dismissed by the majority?'"

What worries me is that a lot of SL clubs wont be affected by it. The traditional big clubs aren’t any more likely to fall out of the ‘top 8’ under this proposal so its in their self-interest to vote for it because they will swap games against the lower sides for more games against the bigger sides. Some of the clubs who are really struggling might like it because it allows them to ‘step down’ without admitting they have failed, those boards get to keep their pride. I cannot see why any club who is on the cusp, the lesser sides who are ambitious, would vote for it. I cant see why the likes of Wakefield, Hull KR, Salford, and those who are in some ways one of the ‘bigger clubs’ but maybe haven’t been as successful as they would want, like Bradford, Hull, Les Catalans, would ever want it. It would make budgeting for them impossible.

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Quote: William Eve "Current Whipping Boy SL Rabble clubs and their supporters in particular are going to have a real problem with this proposed structure.'"


At least you will see average attendances improve for the top 8 !
The numbers watching the other games will plummet though.

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I can see why having a 'spectrum' of competitions to balance the fact that our clubs are a disparate bunch would appeal - but that is way too complicated and messy.

Some hard choices have to be made, and for all that there'd be howls of pain and derision, running away from problems (like we ended up doing with licensing) won't escape them.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "At least you will see average attendances improve for the top 8 !
The numbers watching the other games will plummet though.'"

Wakefield's attendances will plummet as soon as they start charging more than £125 for an adult season ticket.

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The middle one should be called the Intermediateship.

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