Well thats the second game this playoff round where one team has been refereed to a completely different standard than the opposition.

Hull were never going to win, but thats no excuse for simply inept reffing.

Are the Ref's deciding which team to favour before games or is it just how the games are panning out ?

It is seeming like the former. Some of the decisions are ethier down to bias or complete and utter incompetence.

Mr Thaler was surprisingly one-eyed tonight; I didn't expect that, he normally hates Leeds.

it looks like there is some favouritism by certain officials this weekend, either that or some sides are playing to totally different rules to the opposition.like us on friday, hull weren't good enough to win tonight but fell foul of some seriously biased refereeing.
surely its time something was done about this it's totally spoiling the games.

would really like refs to explain to fans what the difference is between 3 leeds players pushing moa back in a gang tackle with a fc player trying to halt them and 3 hull players pushing a leeds player into touch without the leeds players feet leaving the ground? 1 is play on yet the other gets a penalty! absolute shocking by the ref just as hull got back into the game swings it back in leeds favour!

One Hull player looked to be pulling. (IMO)

Cant pull.

sat in the north stand right above the incident, there wasnt any pulling, like i posted before there was no difference to leeds' gang tackle on moa that took him back 10-15 yards and the tackle that put the leeds player, bishop in touch

Thaler had called held and the Hull players carried on pushing. You can argue that Thaler was wrong have called held but once he did and the Hull players continued pushing he really had no option other than to give a penalty.

how long do you allow players to push, didnt seem to mind leeds players pushing moa back, if anything the push into touch was a shorter time. one of a few poor decisions by thaler tonight, very inconsistant!

I thought his feet had left the ground which results in a call of held. We dont judge it on time.

feet never left the ground from my view, refs are too quick to call held in tackles yet will let others go on a little more! as i said, inconsistant refereeing

Ganson biased towards Warrington?

Give over, the guy has hated us for years. In a way I'm glad he reffed that game, because he's currently the best ref in the competition, and if Silverwood hadn't have been stood down, he would have reffed that game, and he would have made sure Hudds won it.

And yet when Wire beat us in the last league game, when Atkins stole the ball from Westerman for the first try,he was driving him back for what seemed an eternity and held was never called by Ganson ( right decision as well imo)
And yet Thaler couldn't wait to shout held when the player was moving, ridiculous call on top of the blatant knock on just prior to that right in front of the touch judge.
Don't get me wrong, in no way am I making excuses, we got beaten by the better team plain and simple.Thought Thaler was poor, even if he had a blinder we still would have been comfortably beaten. You just despair sometimes at some of the blatant inconsistencies and schoolboy errors being made by officials.

Keep it simple, if the player is moving then refs should keep it shut, not be too quick in shouting held which we seem to be seeing more of.

If you keep it that simple then you end up with a rugby union maul. There has to be a held call at some point. That point is generally taken as being when a second attacker lends weight to attempt to stop his teammate being pushed back.
I think to the exact letter of the law Thaler was correct however a penalty seems a very harsh outcome for something like that. I'd be happy with simply the ref calling held and then the play the ball being taken at the point where the attacker was when the ref called held. That way if the defenders don't hear they aren't unduly punished.

As for the Atkins one, I'm unsure as to the ruling when there is only 1 defender. For me it was the right call. If another Wire player had been involved then it should have been called held.