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| If he's English, why not?
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| Quote: roughyedspud "really??
from the odd game i see live,the loads of games i listen too live on 2GB and NRLfulltime...defense on the fringes has become laughable...down the middle yeah its a slog and a grind and you make really hard yards...but chuck it wide and the defense becomes so fragmented thats its making a lad that was laying brick last year look like a world beater...
not everything in the NRL is awesome!'"
I think 'the odd game I see live' is the key phrase in this post. I see quite a bit of NRL and he is without a doubt a cut above any of the other centres we have available to us. He is a very talented player and is dangerous from both kicks and with ball in hand. He can match up to the Aussies in a position we have always struggled and bring a solidarity and spark to our back line.
If he's available get his name on the team sheet.
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| Quote: Chris28 "If he's English, why not?'"
Exactly , why wouldn't pick a talented player? A few more like him and a decent coach and we might actually be competitive
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| I've actually liked the look of if when I watched the Broncos this season. Only thing I can't stand tho is that he need to pull his socks up!!lol Think it looks scruffy
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| Quote: rally2001 "I've actually liked the look of if when I watched the Broncos this season. Only thing I can't stand tho is that he need to pull his socks up!!lol Think it looks scruffy'"
On that basis I don't think he should be selected. We can't have an RL player who looks scruffy.
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| Quote: WakeyManDan8 "At centre we can realistically choose fromMurphy and Bridge.
My top two would be Reed and Atkins.'"
Strange you say realistically then mention Murphy.
Rather have J. Tomkins, Cudjoe and Lawrence, a lot better.
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| Quote: Ronnie Neale "On that basis I don't think he be selected. We can't have an RL player who looks scruffy.'"
lol I'll let him off because I rate him
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| Quote: Catalancs "[i'...has enjoyed a stellar rookie season for the Broncos.
His form has seen he earmarked for a spot in the Queensland's emerging State of Origin squad next year.'[/i
So that's the Australian Associated Press and myself who have an over-hyped opinion of the lad.'"
They just know how to build up a player then when he picks Australia, they will dump him on a heap.
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| I think it would almost send the wrong message to the squad if Reed is selected ahead of someone like Yeaman who has proved his worth in Super League over a period of time. I'm sure nobody would argue that the NRL isn't the stronger competition but selecting players purely because they are doing a decent job in the NRL would suggest to the squad that all of their opposites are better players as they play in a stronger league. This is far from the truth I'd suggest all of the England team would be at the very least solid and in most case good NRL players, if Reed is being selected because his form is better than his SL counterparts then fair enough but I'm not sure thats the case.
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| Quote: BackrowSaint "I think 'the odd game I see live' is the key phrase in this post. I see quite a bit of NRL and he is without a doubt a cut above any of the other centres we have available to us. He is a very talented player and is dangerous from both kicks and with ball in hand. He can match up to the Aussies in a position we have always struggled and bring a solidarity and spark to our back line.
If he's available get his name on the team sheet.'"
the reason he's got his chance is exactly because the aussies are struggling in that position too!
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| If he's good enough, that's the only criterior. If you're not sure how a NRL rookie would stack up against and experienced SL centre like Yeaman, get them both on the squad and see how they look on the training paddock.
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "If he's good enough, that's the only criterior. If you're not sure how a NRL rookie would stack up against and experienced SL centre like Yeaman, get them both on the squad and see how they look on the training paddock.'"
At last, some sense. And then, even if you're still 50/50 over whether he's good enough, stick him on against Wales so at least he's ours and the Aussies can't have him.
I've seen him quite a few time this year and really rate him. One thing people havn't said is how dangerous he is inside the opponents 10m. An area where England normally struggle, he scores tries using his strength from close-range regularly.
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| Quote: roughyedspud "the reason he's got his chance is exactly because the aussies are struggling in that position too!'"
He is playing for Brisbane Broncos, not QLD or Australia.
Why shouldn't he? he is from one of the Bronco's feeder Clubs and has been in Australia for 21 of his 23 years.
Its not as if the Bronco's went and looked for an Englishman because there were no Aussies around.
He is a decent player but I doubt he will ever make the Qld squad let alone the Oz Test team so if he wants to play for England so be it.
I also agree it sends out the wrong message to the players in England when a virtual Aussie with 20 first grade games to his name at 23 years of age is regarded better than his SL equivalent.
Same as Widdop last year (with about 4 first grade games under his belt) what does it say about the perception of the difference in standard of each competition from the English selectors.
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42169_1366443727.jpg Chorlton RL wrote- "Jonny, for me you hold the mantle of most sensible poster on the VT"
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| Quote: Jonesy "He is playing for Brisbane Broncos, not QLD or Australia.
Why shouldn't he? he is from one of the Bronco's feeder Clubs and has been in Australia for 21 of his 23 years.
Its not as if the Bronco's went and looked for an Englishman because there were no Aussies around.
He is a decent player but I doubt he will ever make the Qld squad let alone the Oz Test team so if he wants to play for England so be it.
I also agree it sends out the wrong message to the players in England when a virtual Aussie with 20 first grade games to his name at 23 years of age is regarded better than his SL equivalent.
Same as Widdop last year (with about 4 first grade games under his belt) what does it say about the perception of the difference in standard of each competition from the English selectors.'"
Yep, we were wrong to make sure Widdop was English. I mean, his forms been awful this year.
Are you mad?
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| So if he does turn out to pick england, we have
Widdop, Ellis, Burgess, Burgess, Reed & Flanaghan playing regular NRL
Next year we also will have Graham there with Flanaghan returning.
We also have had the lad from Widnes playing in the Broncos reserves and, i guess we should mention, Michael Worrincy.
A lot of people say "the more English Players in the NRL, the better for England's international chances." How many more do we want over there, half a dozen, 20? Or will we then start to worry about our player drain?
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